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#2 (permalink) Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:49 am "had had" and "have had" usage |
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. Use had had for the earlier of two past actions; use have had for a recent action or one continuing to the present. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:01 pm "had had" and "have had" usage |
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could you provide me some examples?
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Seansu I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Fri Apr 18, 2008 15:45 pm "had had" and "have had" usage |
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Better to explain the present perfect as ............
"Have had" has nothing to do with the action itself, but the time you are talking about.
For instance
I drove a car - the action has finished and the time I am talking about has finished.. I have driven a car - this action has also finished, but the time I am talking about is from a time in the past to NOW and not specifically the time of the action itself.
Likewise, I "have had" a lot of luck ... the being "having luck" does not continue into the present.. The luck may have ended many moons ago.
Also, for many people the use of the term "the present" can be very confusing when learning a language and they often confuse it with NOW. Naturally we all know that the present is not really NOW, or is it? (smile)
But who am I to correct the legends of the past (laughing)
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HamburgEnglish I'm here quite often ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Fri Apr 18, 2008 16:36 pm "had had" and "have had" usage |
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| Yes, you are perfectly correct to say that in referring to the 'Present' doesn't necessarily mean 'now'. |
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