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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #16 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:19 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

qs wrote:
"...none of those countries arrested people for going to churches that were not government controlled..." They wouldn't have been arrested if they hadn't broken laws.

This is a typical rationalization used by supporters of totalitarian communist governments. They make all kinds of perfectly innocent things illegal -- anything that is not ideologically controlled by the government -- and then they arrest people for doing them.

So many things are illegal in communist countries that virtually everyone is guilty of some "crime" and can be arrested when someone in the government wants to.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #17 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:22 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

qs wrote:
"...without telling them what they were charged with or giving them a jury trial. " Don't say that before you clearly know what you are saying.

I clearly know that when you try to explain what a jury is to someone who has recently arrived from China -- even a very educated person -- he has a lot of trouble understanding it. He'll think that the judge has all the power and that the people on the jury are just "witnesses". It takes a lot of time to make the person understand that a panel of ordinary people makes the final decision on the evidence given and not the judge.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #18 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:36 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

"..are you trying to say that somebody like me had any right to decide where are Olympic games to be.??"

I wrote:"you gave the chinese government's right " here YOU refers to the countries representing you(people like you hate communist China)...not somebody like you. Laughing

"You are one of mad Nationalist" Me? Question Do it just like you wrote "I am going to throw to garbage all the shity Chinese products from my house" which is a typical phrenoplegia. Shocked

"You knowledge of history is like book with white pages you know what you wanted to know."

You are same as many people who blame Chinese. when you can't debate then you say them know nothing. You are living at sea? sure you are as smart as a sea lion.

" Tibet has same rights as Chine to exist and it is completly nothing wrong with their desire to live free."
What you said was the same ignorant as those who condemned China deprived of the Tibetans' freedom. blahblah Many people seem to believe they know more about China than Chinese.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #19 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:43 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

"even not comunist because every right thinking comunist would be ashame of such aggresion to foreign country."
Cool down, man. I can't read what you wrote.

"You knowledge of history is like book with white pages you know what you wanted to know."

Tell me what I wanna know and tell me what I dunt wanna know? "You knowledge of history is like book with white pages " a book with white pages are better than a book with prejudice words like you are reading.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #20 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:47 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

You wrote a lot but what you said about China were just empty words. No proof. So it is kinda blah.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #21 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:49 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

"I clearly know that when ..." so cocky
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #22 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:49 am   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

Hi gs,

I'm not quite sure I can follow the course of your argument.

Quote:
What you said was the same ignorant as those who condemned China deprived of the Tibetans' freedom

Just as a matter of interest, would you say that Tibetans are deprived of their freedom? And can you support your point?
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #23 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:00 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

Tibetans are not deprived of their freedom.

I went there myself? My aunt is living there. ( of course you could say I am makig a story.)Do you need further proof?

tibetinfor.com/tibetzt/tibet50-en/background/doc/old_03.htm
wangyee.net/comp/tibet.htm
michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

A westerner who is living in china. His view on the Tibetan Issue. anti-cnn.com
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #24 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:02 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

When we were called “the sick man of East Asia”, we were treated like “Yellow Peril”.
When we are propagated as a next 'superpower', we are treated as a 'threat'.

When we isolated ourselves from the rest of the world, you “open up the market” by smuggling opium into our country;

When we tried to clear the opium out of our country, you compelled the sale by military force;

When we now also believe in the concept of global free trade, you accuse us of taking away your job opportunities.
  

When our country was broken into pieces, your armies broke in for a ‘fair share’ of our land;   

When we are trying to put the pieces together, you are clamouring to liberate ‘the evaded Tibet'.

When we practised communism, you hated us because we were communists;
Well, we now accept capitalism, you hate us again because we are capitalists.
  

When we had one billion people, you said we would make this planet crushed;
So we adopt the one child policy, but then you condemn us for 'breaching the human rights'.

When we lived in poverty, you thought we lived like dogs;
When we lend you the cash, you again accuse us of driving you into a deep debt.
  
When we are developing our industries, you blame us for polluting the earth;
You blame us for generating too much greenhouse gas while enjoying the quality products made by us at lower price.

When we buy oil from the Africa, you are yelling that we are 'supporting the race genocide'; However when you started the war for oil, you called it 'liberation'. 
  
When our country went into chaos, with screaming you meddled in making laws for us;
When we enforce law and order to keep our country peaceful, you claim it a 'bloody crackdown';  
  

When we kept silent, you said we didn't have the freedom of speech;
When we spoke out this time, you accuse us 'hating the rest of the world' because we 'all been brainwashed'.

''Why do you guys hate us so much?" We cannot help but ask. 

"No, no, no, we don't hate anybody, we western world has always been promoting civilisation, justice, tolerance and love……"

"Do you understand us?" Curiously we ask.

"Are you kidding me by asking?" You relied, "Don't ever forget that we have the best media in the world, AFP, CNN and BBC and CBC!!"

It is hard to survive as a human being, but it is even harder to survive as a Chinese.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #25 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:05 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

Have you ever noticed how often a Chinese just appears on this site ("I'm new here, and I like it"), produces voluminous amounts of text giving the official Chinese government explanation of the matters of Tibet and the Olympics -- contributing to no other thread on the forum -- and then more or less disappears? Call me paranoid, but I think some of these people are planted by their government.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #26 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:15 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

"voluminous amounts of text giving the official Chinese government explanation of the matters of Tibet and the Olympics "

Yeah you can go on trusting what learnt from your justic media and history books.
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #27 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:17 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

" I think some of these people are planted by their government."

You are right i am a vicious spy working for the government. Watch your back, man. Twisted Evil
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #28 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:18 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

...what are there in your brain? Laughing
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #29 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:22 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

"contributing to no other thread on the forum "

who said that? I just used other nicknames. Why should I tell you?
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Hope olympic games will be held successfully #30 (permalink) Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:28 pm   Hope olympic games will be held successfully
 

Hi gs,

Quote:
Tibetans are not deprived of their freedom.

Do you think your idea of freedom could differ from what is widely perceived as

"freedom - the absence of interference with the sovereignty of an individual by the use of coercion or aggression"
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