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Usage of 'bit' #31 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:56 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Hi Alex

"A bit warmer" is naturally possible, too. Whether you choose to say 'warm' or 'warmer' will depend largely on the broader context.


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OH MAN .... Have you all forgot the original THEME here ???????????

Hi HE
I haven't forgotten the original question. I simply disagree with your opinion that a sentence such as "Can you come to the office a bit early?" is "wrong".

To be honest, it almost sounds as though you might have been thinking of German rather than English usage. Then again, maybe you Brits just say this differently. However, I find that very hard to believe in this particular case.
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Usage of 'bit' #32 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 13:16 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

So you would find no problem in saying such as this, Yankee?

"You've been coming in so late recently. Can you come in a bit early tomorrow?"
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Usage of 'bit' #33 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 13:29 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Sounds weird to me, Molly.

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Usage of 'bit' #34 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 15:28 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Alan wrote:
Sounds weird to me, Molly.

Alan


And to me.
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Usage of 'bit' #35 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 16:19 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

This is because in Russian (most people speak in Belarus) we don't have such combination - a bit early - in such sentences. I may be wrong, but I simply can't accept this because I compare it with my language.
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Usage of 'bit' #36 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 17:05 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Molly wrote:
So you would find no problem in saying such as this, Yankee?

"You've been coming in so late recently. Can you come in a bit early tomorrow?"

No, Molly. I would probably use 'a bit earlier' or 'on time' there. As I said, it depends on the context.

Let's say I have planned a party. The festivities are scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. Maybe I think I'll need a bit of extra help with the final preparations just before the planned beginning of the party. I might say this to my best friend, for example:

"Could you come a bit early?"

In other words, I would be asking my friend to arrive a little bit before the scheduled time.
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Usage of 'bit' #37 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 17:15 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Alan wrote:
Sounds weird to me, Molly.

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Usage of 'bit' #38 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 17:32 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

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For those of you who can't quite believe that "a bit early" is and can be used, look at the results that a search of the British National Corpus provides:

http://sara.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/saraWeb?qy=a+bit+early

You don't have anything against the British National Corpus, do you, Alan? :wink:
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Usage of 'bit' #39 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 18:00 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Now I see...
Too many examples prove your point. :)
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Usage of 'bit' #40 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 18:23 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Hi,

Quotations from the BNC do not really help with reference to the original sentence -

Quote:
Can you come in a bit early tomorrow?


Quote:
it depends on the context.
- absolutely.

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Usage of 'bit' #41 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 18:32 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Alan wrote:
Hi,

Quotations from the BNC do not really help with reference to the original sentence.


Exactly. We were not provided any context in the original sentences. Therefore, the usage can not simply be called "wrong".

Thank you for agreeing, Alan.
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Usage of 'bit' #42 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 18:57 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Inga wrote:
This is because in Russian (most people speak in Belarus) we don't have such combination - a bit early - in such sentences. .

Why?
Приди завтра немножко(a bit) раньше(earlier) - sounds perfect to me :)
Though Russian is beside the point, but nevertheless.
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Usage of 'bit' #43 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 19:01 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Who said it was 'wrong'? I said it was weird!

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Usage of 'bit' #44 (permalink) Fri Apr 25, 2008 19:44 pm   Usage of 'bit'
 

Alan wrote:
Who said it was 'wrong'? I said it was weird!

Alan
.Yes, I agree that Molly's example was indeed weird. :wink:
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Usage of 'bit' #45 (permalink) Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:27 am   Usage of 'bit'
 

Why?
Приди завтра немножко(a bit) раньше(earlier) - sounds perfect to me Smile
Though Russian is beside the point, but nevertheless.

But: Приди немножко (a bit) рано (early) sounds weird.
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