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Except, but, excluding, barring #1 (permalink) Sat May 03, 2008 9:13 am   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

Hello.
Here are my questions for today. Smile

1) What's the difference between these words?
a) except
b) but
c) excluding
d) barring

2) Are these examples correct?
a) There was everybody except (for?) me at the party.
b) There was everybody but me at the party.
c) There was everybody excluding me at the party.
d) There was everybody barring me at the party.

3) Are there any other synonyms?
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Except, but, excluding, barring #2 (permalink) Sat May 03, 2008 16:27 pm   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

Hi MFIAG Smile

Here is my take:

1) What's the difference between these words?
=> I think they mean the same (personal idea only)

2) Are these examples correct?
b) There was everybody but me at the party.
c) There was everybody excluding me at the party.
d) There was everybody barring me at the party.
=> these are correct

a) There was everybody except (for?) me at the party.
=> According to some grammar books in my country, "except" is used without "for", and "but" is used with "for", but according to others, it is vice versa, so I'm dumb now Razz

3) Are there any other synonyms? => no idea!
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Except, but, excluding, barring #3 (permalink) Mon May 05, 2008 9:35 am   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

So lets wait for some native-speakers to make things clear Very Happy
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Except, but, excluding, barring #4 (permalink) Tue May 06, 2008 16:54 pm   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

Could any native speakers please help us? Razz
Many thanks in advance Smile
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Except, but, excluding, barring #5 (permalink) Tue May 06, 2008 17:40 pm   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

hi,

Another expression is 'apart from me'.

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Except, but, excluding, barring #6 (permalink) Tue May 06, 2008 17:45 pm   Except, but, excluding, barring
 

Hi Alan,
Thanks a lot for your help but how about MIAG's original question? Are my answers to them right or wrong?

Many thanks
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