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#62 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 21:23 pm Bush's job rating |
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| Bush's approval rating is around 20%.. That says a lot about how incompetent he was as the president. |
As I've mentioned, the approval rating of the Democrats in Congress runs about 10 points lower than Bush's. What does that say about the Democrats?
A low approval rating can also be the result of a constant drumbeat of propaganda, and yes, lies about a president. Some very great presidents had very low approval ratings in their second terms. |
Do you mean the "lies" that Iraq has deadly weapon blah blah.. having read your posts, I think some people still believe his propaganda and lies :lol:
G Bush has broken "all time low" record so stop pretending he's a popular president. Even hardcore Republicans admit that.. This is exactly why the war-monger McSame distances himself from Bush :lol: |
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#63 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 21:35 pm Bush's job rating |
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| Do you have any proof that his pastor was preaching the same racist thing again and again for 20 years? or it is your sad assumption? |
The church sold videotapes of his rants all that time, so it's well documented that the man was spewing that venom for decades. |
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It seems like you're the sole owner of that video tape :lol: .. the lies and false propaganda :lol:
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| Can you prove that Obama knows the pastor was racist but still chose him as his pastor? |
Witnesses who attended the church at various times over those decades claim that it was impossible not to know it. |
lies and false propaganda..
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| So what about the other black people who were present in the church when the pastor yelled it out? They're all racist too and they need to be chucked out of USA? |
Who's talking about chucking anyone out of the US? We're just talking about making sure someone doesn't become president. |
there's no way you can prove Obama is a racist just because his pastor states the obvious which seems racism to you, does not make him a racist. It sounds like grade 5 argument from your side.
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| and how are you sure McCain is not a racist? because he never had a racist pastor? :lol: One can be a racist and portray himsef/herself as a non-racist person. We will never know whether Bush and McCain are racist or not. |
Yes, we will never know, and that's one of the qualities that makes a person suitable to hold public office. A racist who is able to hide it and not act on it in his policies is preferable to someone who follows a racist mentor and writes racist things in his autobiographies. People have all kinds of racist and tribal sentiments resulting from experiences in their past, but the important thing is that they know the feelings are wrong and don't act on them. |
[/quote] Just because his pastor seems racist doesn't make Barack Obama a racist. Then I'd argue that most of Americans are inherently racists as they come from a history of racism. Racism in his autobiographies.. this is called lies and false propaganda.. McSame is a racist and he proves it by playing race card to get elected. ie, Clinton's fund raiser, a white woman, hurled racist slurs at Obama.. just admit that there're zillion racists in America in all parties and some people just pretend that they are not racist. McSame who hates "people" as he seems to like war does not fit to lead USA. |
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#64 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 21:54 pm Bush's job rating |
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I'd like to know how Jamie will defend Liberman's drivel "Our enemies will test the new president early," Lieberman told CBS Sunday. "Remember that the truck bombing of the World Trade Center happened in the first year of the Clinton administration. 9/11 happened in the first year of the Bush administration." Isn't that fear-mongering? Low class people. Is he wishing for a repeat?
How'd you defend comments from McSame's adviser Charlie Black that McCain's campaign would benefit from another U.S. terror attack? He's the adviser to McCain so it's very reasonable to believe that both of them share the same views and they wish it will happen. War-monger McSame wants to win it at any cost. |
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#65 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 23:19 pm Bush's job rating |
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| Justice wrote: |
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| How's G Bush better than Saddam Husein? |
AAAAAAAAAAAA-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!
You really haven't read much about Saddam, have you? |
I have read about both.. Both are clowns. If Bush was Iranian president, he'll ba labelled a "dictator" by now. :lol: |
If he had been elected under the current Iranian system, we would not only be called a dictator, he WOULD be a dictator.
However, he was elected under a democratic system and has limited powers under the constitution.
When you're older, you'll understand the difference. |
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#66 (permalink) Wed Jul 09, 2008 20:07 pm Bush's job rating |
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Iranian president was elected by the same way Gorgie Bush was elected..
The case of Musharaf is different as he elected himself as the president of the country.. wonder why Bush likes Pakistan president and not Iranian. Why he wants to wage a war on Iran and not on countries like Zimbabwe? It's because Iranian president is not a "friend" of Bush and he doesn't give a rat's ^&* to Bush. :lol: |
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#67 (permalink) Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:54 am Bush's job rating |
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sorry for digging it. i just register a username. and i have one question. do you really think your country did right in the iraq. trying to build a truly democratic Iraq? so six years has gone, what u can see in iraq.
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#68 (permalink) Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:24 am Bush's job rating |
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I don't have my own complete opinion on this, but I tend to agree with the opinion of the many Iraqis I see in my daily life:
1. Saddam Hussein was a genocidal despot who had to go. He was connected to and supported Arabic terrorist organizations, and that had to be stopped. He had violated every UN resolution that was passed in regard to his country.
2. The Americans made the mistake of thinking things would be relatively peaceful after the dictator was overthrown. That has been the experience of the US in past wars, but this was different. I now agree with the Iraqis I speak to that it was a mistake not to seal the borders with Syria and Iran (to the extent possible) and not to declare martial law immediately. (One Iraqi woman told me that the US made the mistake of thinking Arabs were civilized, but that they were not. I don't like that statement, but there may be a little truth in it.)
3. The vast majority of the bloodbath and killing of civilians since the invasion has not been caused by the Americans, but by remnants of the old regime and by Muslim terrorists. For example, it is not the Americans who are bombing Christian churches in Mosul and other places now, and it is not the Americans who have been killing people who refuse to flee and give up their houses in Baghdad to Muslims. It is not the Americans who exploded bombs among children waiting to receive candy on holidays, and it's not the Americans who are kidnapping people and calling their relatives in the US for ransom money. It is not the Americans who blew up bombs in crowded marketplaces or at weddings.
These acts are all performed by Arab terrorists. To say the Americans are responsible for them is to say that Arabs cannot control their own actions and that other people are responsible for what they do. However, Arabs are not monkeys, so they are responsible for the things they do.
People who watch the news -- and who deal with non-Westernized Arabs on a daily basis -- notice that one of their major traits is that they blame others for their own destructive actions. |
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#69 (permalink) Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:51 am Bush's job rating |
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| see injun in America. May Saddam Hussein was a genocidal despot. but i don't think that is the reason why America took operation. the truth is Saddam is anti-america. and second, bush need one thing to transfer domestic attention from 911. what is the best way to attract people's attention? smart guys know that. one thing you should pay attention. at that time there is no reason show the relationship between saddam and 911~ |
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#70 (permalink) Thu Dec 31, 2009 16:00 pm Bush's job rating |
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| Gunner wrote: |
| see injun in America. May Saddam Hussein was a genocidal despot. but i don't think that is the reason why America took operation. the truth is Saddam is anti-america. and second, bush need one thing to transfer domestic attention from 911. what is the best way to attract people's attention? smart guys know that. one thing you should pay attention. at that time there is no reason show the relationship between saddam and 911~ |
I can't understand most of your post, but it appears to me that you're parroting the Arab propaganda.
Besides that, before the invasion of Iraq, Bush never claimed that Saddam had anything directly to do with 9/11. The war in Iraq was a completely different issue. |
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#71 (permalink) Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:23 am Bush's job rating |
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Has Che Stalin left the boards? Hail Comrade!
Bush did what he felt right to keep us safe after 9/11 (after Clinton had Usama cornered in the '90s but let him go...).
Reasons for "Bush's" headaches: Economy: 9/11, tech bust, deadbeats not paying their mortgages Iraq: Insane anti-democratic insurgency. What's their problem with voting? Bush's biggest mistake was turning from Afghanistan to Iraq too early -- we should have kept our forces in Afghanistan until we decimated the Taliban. Instead we went into Iraq and the Taliban has been regaining some of their strength. That's the only thing Bush left for Obama that was actually Bush's fault.
With such a left-wing president now, I appreciate Bush standing up for our ideal of Free Enterprise/low taxes even more. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness (property) -- he tried to protect all three core ideals.
Now we have a push for more Socialism (unamerican...) with Obama.
2010 congressional elections can't come soon enough -- we need to free-up our capital and let our entrepreneurs lead our economy back... something Socialism can't do. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#72 (permalink) Mon Jan 18, 2010 18:19 pm Bush's job rating |
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Hi Tom!
It's been a while since we've last discussed US politics :) Did some reading on the forum and discovered a slightly dated discussion. Hope you don't mind me picking up on the thread...
| Prezbucky wrote: |
Bush's biggest mistake was turning from Afghanistan to Iraq too early -- we should have kept our forces in Afghanistan until we decimated the Taliban. Instead we went into Iraq and the Taliban has been regaining some of their strength. That's the only thing Bush left for Obama that was actually Bush's fault.
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What do you make of US government regulations -- or the lack thereof -- that eventually lead to the subprime crisis? I think it was the US Securities and Exchange Commission which allowed US investment banks to issue more debt; debt that was used to purchase mortgage backed securities. We're talking trillions of dollars here. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I would argue that some kind of intervention would have been needed to legislate the shadow banking system. But what happened instead was that credit default swaps became exempt from regulation by the US Security and Exchange Commission which eventually turned into a portfolio compression leading to a notional devalorisation of those credit default swaps of some 40 trillion dollars. Write out this number and you will get an idea of how all those zeros are still affecting your economy.
It is also interesting to note that Henry Merritt and the US treasury used a 700 billion dollar bail-out scheme to improve trust in the badly eroded market. This government infusion then HAD to be accepted by the banks – "If a capital infusion is not appealing, you should be aware that your regulator will require it in any circumstance."
All this preceded Obama's 'takeover'. Think of a rotten apple and try using its seeds to plant a tree that’s on the banker’s list.
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