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#2 (permalink) Tue May 06, 2008 8:24 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Hi,
Sentence 1 she can only find a part-time job. Sentence 2 If an ambulance doesn't come soon .... bleed to death. Sentence 3 outside England
I have indicated the changes in bold letters.
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#3 (permalink) Tue May 06, 2008 11:47 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Hello, Can you explain for me why replace ''out of'' with ''outside'' ? Thanks in advance! _________________ Don't see your shade think you are great |
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#4 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 3:57 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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thanks a lot, Alan! And i have the same question as Duc.Coud you please explain to us? Thank you very much! |
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#5 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 6:46 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Yea, I have the same query. Let's wait for Alan's idea :) _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#6 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 7:14 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Hi,
It's perhaps the way I interpreted the expression: 'a mother-tongue out of England'. I assumed this to mean a mother tongue that had been created/developed in other countries. That's why I suggested 'outside', in other words not in England itself. The use of 'out of' suggests to me originating from.
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#7 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 7:58 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Yes, Alan, I understand the sentence the same as you, and I also agree that "outside" is the best choice here, but about the use of "out of" in this sentence, I still wonder why it is not all right because after all, English really comes from England, right? :) _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#8 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 10:07 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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Well, you can't have both. Either it means English has come out of England in the sense of that's where it started/originated or we're talking about the use of English as a first language in different countries which are outside England/in other countries.
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#9 (permalink) Wed May 07, 2008 11:41 am who is good at finding mistakes? |
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So Thang,can you give us the correct answer in according to your book? _________________ Don't see your shade think you are great |
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#10 (permalink) Thu May 08, 2008 4:20 am Finding mistakes: If an ambulance isn't coming soon, the passenger who has many |
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my key says that the word should be corrected is: Sentence 1:'a part-time job' Sentence 2:'die' Sentence 3:'out of' But unfortunately,the correction of my book was lost and it's an old book so I think,maybe,its mistakes are wrong.That's the reason why i ask you. |
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#11 (permalink) Thu May 08, 2008 4:27 am Finding mistakes: If an ambulance isn't coming soon, the passenger who has many |
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and I don't agree with Alan's correction to the sentence 1 because i think, the word'only' is placed after 'find out' to press the job she could find so it's correct. My book says that the incorrect is 'a part-time job',but i can't correct it.Please help me! |
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#12 (permalink) Thu May 08, 2008 5:31 am Finding mistakes: If an ambulance isn't coming soon, the passenger who has many |
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. I agree with Alan's comments 100%. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#13 (permalink) Fri May 09, 2008 3:48 am Finding mistakes: If an ambulance isn't coming soon, the passenger who has many |
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I have just look the word 'only' up in my dictionary,and there is an example:''I really don't like this book'' and think the word 'only' is placed here in order to press that he didn't like that book at all but ''I don't really like this book'' is ok however it has a more slight meaning than the first.So again,i don't think the correct 'can only find' is not neccessary. Could you please explain the reason why you turn 'can find only' into 'can only find' ,Alan? And Yankee,What about your ideas? |
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#14 (permalink) Fri May 09, 2008 4:50 am Finding mistakes: If an ambulance isn't coming soon, the passenger who has many |
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Hi Thang77
The error in your first sentence is the word 'out'. That word should be deleted. The word 'only' can be left where it is, but the word order 'can only find' would definitely be more common.
There are actually two errors in sentence 2. See Alan's corrections above.
I agree that 'out of' is wrong in sentence 3 and should be 'outside'. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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