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| Quote: | | I personally think people should marry whoever they want to. |
Even if that person marries a Democrat?  |
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Molly
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| Mon May 12, 2008 11:38 am Marital age |
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| I don't have any party affiliation. I don't care. |
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Jamie (K)
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| Mon May 12, 2008 11:53 am Marital age |
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Even if your kids became lefties?  |
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Molly
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| Mon May 12, 2008 11:58 am Marital age |
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You can't stop kids from becoming lefties. It's part of immaturity. My parents couldn't stop me, and if I have my own kids, I won't be able to stop them.
As the old saying goes: "A young man who is not a socialist has no heart. An old man who is still a socialist has no brain." |
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Jamie (K)
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| Tue May 13, 2008 12:33 pm Marital age |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | "A young man who is not a socialist has no heart. An old man who is still a socialist has no brain." |
Hi Jamie,
Iīm not quite sure about the meaning of your truism! 
What is the meaning of : has no heart? Isnīt brave or donīt have any concern to humanīs need? |
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| Tue May 13, 2008 12:57 pm Marital age |
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| Quote: | | My parents couldn't stop me, and if I have my own kids, I won't be able to stop them. |
You mean if you could stop them, you'd try? |
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Molly
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| Tue May 13, 2008 13:13 pm Marital age |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | My parents couldn't stop me, and if I have my own kids, I won't be able to stop them. |
You mean if you could stop them, you'd try? |
I'd try to guide their thinking and steer them toward diverse reading material. However, once a person becomes a "true believer", it's often hard to get him to read anything he doesn't a priori agree with until he matures a little, and some people never mature to that point at all.
It's something like having a much younger girlfriend. There are things she hasn't experienced in life, so sometimes you see her getting ready to make a big mistake. What she's doing is like an old movie you've seen many times before, and you know how the ending is going to come out. You have to decide whether you should tell her what's going to happen or not. Maybe she won't believe you, and on the other hand, maybe she'll find her own way out of the problem that results. And you don't want to be the older man dictating to her what she should do all the time. Sometimes you have to let people make their own mistakes and then help them when things blow up in their faces. |
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| Tue May 13, 2008 13:26 pm Marital age |
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| Quote: | | Sometimes you have to let people make their own mistakes and then help them when things blow up in their faces. |
And at your age, do you still make mistakes and do things often blow up in your face? Also, what could a young girlfriend teach and old man like yourself?
Going back to the idea of socialism and immaturity: Are you saying that a very high percentage of the American public, of all ages, are immature? |
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| Tue May 13, 2008 16:51 pm Marital age |
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hi all!
this is a interesting topic. In my country, normally the gap of age between husband and wife is around 5 year older or younger. It seems to be very hard for the husband or wife getting married above 10. Because of the traditional and some cultural, it also obstruct these spouses to get divorced. This is quite obsolete but if anyone hope to do it, they have to face with their family and social. People will make complaining and make gossip, and im sure these people can not survive in my country.
When i was young, I really hated the cultural of my country. Everything I do, I have to follow it. For instance, when the young kids talk to the older people they have to use some word in the last of sentences. If the kids dont do it, the older people will think that they are lousy kids and no educated. |
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| Tue May 13, 2008 17:38 pm Marital age |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | Sometimes you have to let people make their own mistakes and then help them when things blow up in their faces. |
And at your age, do you still make mistakes and do things often blow up in your face? |
That happens less and less to me, but it can happen to anyone at any age. People of all ages can make big mistakes, and the more intelligent a person is, the worse mistakes he tends to make.
| Molly wrote: | | Also, what could a young girlfriend teach and old man like yourself? |
From what I've seen, they can't teach me anything that's based on accumulation of experience. What they can teach me are the same things that any other person can teach me, which is knowledge based on their having different experience from mine. Generally, this experience doesn't involve anything that's "new", because that mainly involves just pop culture fads, and I tend to keep up on new developments that actually matter to life. Very often the younger woman is less versed in "modern" developments than I am and relies on me for explanation.
Plus, everybody has their own special gifts and abilities, but that, again, is true of people of any age.
| Molly wrote: | | Going back to the idea of socialism and immaturity: Are you saying that a very high percentage of the American public, of all ages, are immature? |
People tend to be socialist for different reasons.
Some people like socialism because they're idealistic, a bit naïve about the principles of economics, and often because they have not yet had to make their own living and be exposed to the consequences of their own beliefs. That's why students, and women who have married well-to-do men and never worked, tend to be socialist. In those cases, socialism is a product of immaturity.
There are other people who are socialist for a purely pragmatic reason, which is that they can get a lot of free stuff -- maybe they can get EVERYTHING free! Some nonproductive people just like the idea of living parasitically off "the government", without caring or possibly even knowing that the government doesn't have money of its own and that everything they get has been forced from other people.
That said, few people -- not even full-blown capitalists -- would disagree that some people who are down on their luck need temporary assistance, or that some disabled people need permanent assistance. The disagreement is over how all that should be financed, who should qualify for the help, and whether able-bodied should be financed in perpetuity. |
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| Tue May 13, 2008 18:47 pm Marital age |
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| Quote: | | People of all ages can make big mistakes, and the more intelligent a person is, the worse mistakes he tends to make. |
So it's only men who make mistakes, right?
| Quote: | | Generally, this experience doesn't involve anything that's "new", |
Apart from them being women and you a man.
| Quote: | | Very often the younger woman is less versed in "modern" developments than I am and relies on me for explanation. |
Would the younger man also need to rely on you for the same? |
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Molly
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| Wed May 14, 2008 18:12 pm Marital age |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | People of all ages can make big mistakes, and the more intelligent a person is, the worse mistakes he tends to make. |
So it's only men who make mistakes, right? |
Why would you ask me a stupid retro question like that? Is this the 1970s?
| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | Generally, this experience doesn't involve anything that's "new", |
Apart from them being women and you a man. |
I've got news for you. There's nothing new to me about women. I've been exposed to women since earliest childhood. In fact, my mother was a woman. Believe it or not, so were both my sisters!
| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | | Very often the younger woman is less versed in "modern" developments than I am and relies on me for explanation. |
Would the younger man also need to rely on you for the same? |
This is another question from the 1970s. Say hello to Betty Friedan for me. |
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| Wed May 14, 2008 18:49 pm Marital age |
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You may be interested about Bismark opinion.
Who was not the socialist when he was young would be the old prick when becoming old.
Translation is a bit not accurate but meaning is same.
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| Wed May 14, 2008 21:18 pm Marital age |
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| Quote: | | Why would you ask me a stupid retro question like that? Is this the 1970s? |
Ask your "intelligent person", above, whether he thinks it is.
| Quote: | | I've got news for you. There's nothing new to me about women. I've been exposed to women since earliest childhood. In fact, my mother was a woman. Believe it or not, so were both my sisters |
Even so, through most of your posts about women, you seem to know very little about us. Well, one thing is for sure, you know that you hate a lot of women, right?
| Quote: | | This is another question from the 1970s. Say hello to Betty Friedan for me. |
You seem to get very nervous when asked about your relations with men. Why is that? |
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