"have somebody" vs "something doing something"

[nessie]

Please tell me about the usage of "have somebody/something doing something".

Many thanks
Nessie

[Molly]

It can involve hiring, or sometimes obliging, someone to do something for you.

e.g.

I'm having him cut my lawn.
I'm having my roof mended.
She's has him running round in circles.

[nessie]

Could you please be more specific, Molly?
Besides, how different is it compared to the causative form?

[asdflknbbefcs]

Hey, my name is Danny.

Hope I can be of help here.

[Molly]

See here, Nessie?

Have something done

[nessie]

I can understand the causative form quite clearly, but I just still wonder about the structure "have somebody/ something" doing something"...

[Molly]

Why?

[lost_soul]

[Yankee]

Hi Alex

[nessie]

Hi Lost soul,

Thank you vert much for your help
Yes, that's exactly what I wanted to ask. So now, to put it in a nutshell, the structure "have somebody doing something" has two usages:
1/ Allow somebody to do something
and
2/ somebody is doing something for you

Is my summary completely correct?
Many thanks in advance
Nessie

[Molly]

[Molly]

[Molly]

In other words the 'doing' is in progress and is therefore incomplete.

Not always in progress at the time of speaking. (See the progressive when used for arranagements.)

"I'm going to have him mowing my lawn if it's the last thing I do" "He's not going to get away with it again."

[nessie]

Sorry but too many different ideas confuse me... (+_+)

[quote="Yankee"]
The idea of 'not allow' is typical in this negative construction:
'will not have (someone/anyone) doing (something specific)'

=> If possible, may I ask this question, Amy? (Please ignore me if the answer is "No" - Many thanks anyway )

=> Do you mean the idea of "not allow" is typical in that very construction only? So this sentence: "They had him using their car yesterday" can't be understood as "They allow him to use their car yesterday"?
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[Yankee]

Right, Nessie.

In the sentence "They had him using their car yesterday" it sounds like they asked him to use their car (for whatever reason).

However, if you say "I won't have you using my car without my permission", that would be understood to mean "You are not allowed to use my car unless I give you permission."
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