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due to, because of, thanks to? Fri May 09, 2008 8:58 am  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

It is acknowledged that traffice accident are largely_____ drivers' carelessness.

A. because of B. due to C. thanks to

which is proper,why? thanks!
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due to, because of, thanks to? Fri May 09, 2008 9:31 am  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

"Largely due to" is the common expression.
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due to, because of, thanks to? Fri May 09, 2008 18:04 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

that's all?
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due to, because of, thanks to? Fri May 09, 2008 18:24 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Yes.
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 7:35 am  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Besides, as far as I know, "due to" is used when you refer to something as a bad cause of some certain problem. "because of" is more general and "thanks to" is used to refer to a good cause of something

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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 8:01 am  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Hi, Nessie

I think you're a bit off the mark. The reason why "due to" is right is that it is the only choice that collocates with "to be".
I believe you cannot say "to be thanks to" or "to be because of".
But you can say "to be due to". Or even "to be due" (like my report is due tomorrow)
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 9:40 am  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

That is because of the complexity. Isn't it right? Lost soul? thanks.
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 12:16 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

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Besides, as far as I know, "due to" is used when you refer to something as a bad cause of some certain problem.

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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 14:55 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Thanks for your idea, Molly and Lost soul Smile

Actually, I'm not really sure whether my idea about the use of "due to", "thanks to" and "because of" that I stated above is right or not. It's just something my teacher once taught me so as to distinguish between "due to" and "because of" (in multiple choice questions)

Hi Lost soul, here are some examples of "is because of" that I've found on the BNC Smile :
http://sara.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/saraWeb?qy=is+because+of

and here are some examples of "is thanks to" (also from the BNC):
http://sara.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/saraWeb?qy=is+thanks+to

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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 16:39 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

so what on earth are the differences, friends?
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 17:36 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

I have no idea, vaok. I just stated what my (non-native) teacher used to teach me. To be sure about this matter, I think we must wait for some native speakers' ideas Smile

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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 19:06 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Hi Nessie,

I'm going to get on my hobby horse again and issue a word of warning, a caveat, a bit of advice. Don't take anything in the bnc or google or doodle dolly's mixture as adding authenticity to a word or phrase. They merely report what people have written and said. It's better to listen to broadcasts of English, read books in English and see/hear these words/phrases in context and then you can make a judgement. I bet if you popped 'I dunno' in BNC, you'd come up with a bucket load of examples of how Tom, Whoever and Harry used them but I wouldn't recommend the use of the expression.

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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 19:22 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

I'm not quite sure what to make of this:
BNC search results for "I dunno" Wink

Nessie, I would say that your teacher's advice was not too bad as an extremely general guideline or tendency. However, it should definitely NOT be viewed as an absolute rule.

Ms Google and the BNC can be handy tools. However, as is the case with many tools, you need to learn how to use them well.
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 20:40 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Alan wrote:
I bet if you popped 'I dunno' in BNC, you'd come up with a bucket load of examples of how Tom, Whoever and Harry used them but I wouldn't recommend the use of the expression.

Just out of curiosity, Alan, what exactly was your recommendation? I presume it was one (or both) of the following:
1) You should never write "I don't know" as "I dunno"
2) You should never pronounce "I don't know" as "I dunno"

I assume that at least some people in your neck of the woods pronounce "I don't know" as something that sounds like "I dunno"? How common would you say that pronunciation ("I dunno") is in everyday speech?
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due to, because of, thanks to? Sat May 10, 2008 23:34 pm  due to, because of, thanks to?
 

Alan wrote:
Hi Nessie,

I'm going to get on my hobby horse again and issue a word of warning, a caveat, a bit of advice. Don't take anything in the bnc or google or doodle dolly's mixture as adding authenticity to a word or phrase. They merely report what people have written and said. It's better to listen to broadcasts of English, read books in English and see/hear these words/phrases in context and then you can make a judgement. I bet if you popped 'I dunno' in BNC, you'd come up with a bucket load of examples of how Tom, Whoever and Harry used them but I wouldn't recommend the use of the expression.

Alan

A little bit amateur regarding advice there, Alan, Sorry to say so. Just how many broadcasts and books would I have to read to know what commonly collocates with "due to" in BrEng? Can you point us in the direction of such sources? And why would such broadcasts and books have any more authority than the BNC regarding authenticity of use?
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