Question from a newcomer

[Kidnapper]

Hello everyone,
I'm new member here ,nice to meet you all.I have just have a look over this forum and have some questions.
Please follow Speacial usage of 'would have V-ed"

I have just read this thread but I don't understand why the action ''I find....'' is in the present while the action ''I would have thought...'' is in the past because the two sentences have the same meaning.
Just give me your idea,thank you very much.
Hope to make close friends on this new website
(I still have more questions but don't have time to post.See you again)

[Mister Micawber]

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Sorry, I don't understand that whole thread.
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[Kidnapper]

Duc wrote
''Sentence rewriting:
1.I find it surprising that she didn't like her present.
==> I would....
And here is my answer "I would have thought that she LIKED her present.''
But the correct one is "I would have thought that she WOULD HAVE LIKED her present.'
After reading two phrase written in capitals ,please explain for me why ''she liked'' isn't true and the usage of ''would have..'' in this situation.''
And I wonder why the answer is ''I would have thought that she would have liked her present'' ,why they use ''would have'' -the past while the action ''I find...'' is in the present?

[Inga]

I find it surprising that she didn't like her present. When I bought the present I thought... (... she would like it?)
But the whole sentence I would have thought that she WOULD HAVE LIKED her present. is too complicated for me.
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[Nessie]

I agree with Inga. Actually I can't transform the sentence "I find it surprising that she didn't like her present." into a sentence beginning with "I would..." without changing the meaning, so let's wait for some native speakers' ideas

As for the original sentence, here is my transformation:
=> I thought that she would like her present.

Just my 2 cents
Nessie
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Sorry seems to be the hardest word...

[Nessie]

Be patient, Kidnapper
I think I can sympathize with you (same here ) but I also think we both should sympathize with the teachers (there are many questions posted here everyday )

Best wishes
Nessie
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Sorry seems to be the hardest word...

[Yankee]

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I posted my two cents in the other thread:
Speacial usage of 'would have V-ed"
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