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Sun May 18, 2008 16:54 pm Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| I believe the sentence itself is correct even though it doesn't tell the whole story. |
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Rajin New Member
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Sun May 18, 2008 23:55 pm Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| The sentence is fine in formal English. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Nessie I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Mon May 19, 2008 18:45 pm Grammatically correct? (It is the only reason I stay on here.) |
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I believe it's correct in both varieties of English.
English isn't one of those languages that requires more words in order to be more formal.
To my ears, the version with "why" sounds slightly less formal or more "uneducated" than the version without "why". Others may disagree with me on that feeling. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Nessie I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Mon May 19, 2008 20:33 pm Grammatically correct? (It is the only reason I stay on here.) |
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Hi Nessie,
Why, when you have been given an authoritative answer, do you always want a dozen more? And for goodness sake stop being constantly hooked up on this American/British English paranoia!
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Word Story: Search Engines |
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Tue May 20, 2008 5:20 am Grammatically correct? (It is the only reason I stay on here.) |
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Alan, I think Nessie's problem is that when you're dealing with non-native-speaking English teachers who have had minimal contact with the anglophone world, you never know what that teacher is going to claim is "British English". Nessie is probably tormented by teachers who teach him Vietnamese English, tell him it's British English, and condemn everything that deviates from their Vietnamese standard as being "American". You just never know what these teachers are going to penalize someone for.
Also, in countries whose language is limited to just one territory, there is usually one dialect based in one place that's considered "correct", and all the rest of the varieties are considered "wrong". People in countries like this don't have any real concept of a multi-standard language, which English is, and they unsuitably apply their own language's concept of "standard" to English.
So Nessie comes by this honestly, and if he's still in school, he has reason to be paranoid.
Nessie, if you learn really good Australian English and go to the UK or the US with it, the British and the Americans won't be thinking, "That guy speaks Australian English!" but will be thinking, "Wow! He speaks impressive English!" It doesn't matter which variety you emulate, and all the nations' varieties are mixed up with all the other nations' words and expressions. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Tue May 20, 2008 7:36 am Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: | | The sentence is fine in formal English. |
What makes it "not suitable" for informal English use?
| Quote: | | To my ears, the version with "why" sounds slightly less formal or more "uneducated" than the version without "why". |
Informal language is not always uneducated use, is it? Just checking.
| Quote: | | Also, in countries whose language is limited to just one territory, there is usually one dialect based in one place that's considered "correct", and all the rest of the varieties are considered "wrong". |
Sounds like Britain. 
| Quote: | | Nessie, if you learn really good Australian English and go to the UK or the US with it, the British and the Americans won't be thinking, "That guy speaks Australian English!" but will be thinking, "Wow! He speaks impressive English!" |
Let's hope Nessie doesn't use "shan't" in the USA. 
| Quote: | | It doesn't matter which variety you emulate |
Yeah, c'mon! You can all emulate Nigerian English. We welcome you.  |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Tue May 20, 2008 11:17 am Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| Nessie wrote: | | Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English: |
| Jamie (K) wrote: | | The sentence is fine in formal English. |
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| Molly wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | | The sentence is fine in formal English. |
What makes it "not suitable" for infomal English use? | You seem to be extremely confused about even simple things in English, Molly.
I suggest you start your own separate threads. Your special problems and difficulties can be dealt with more effectively that way. . |
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Tue May 20, 2008 11:26 am Grammatically correct? (It is the only reason I stay on here.) |
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Hi Alan, Jamie and Molly, First of all, I'd like to thank you all for your comments 
The reason why I always want to see about many teachers' ideas, especially British and American ones, is that I love English and all her varieties. I love to study them all and I also love to know which is of British use, which is of American one, and which is others'. It's cool to be able to know them, you know. It's very useful, I believe. For example when I speak to a new friend, I can regconize where he is from through his English style And even if it's not very useful, it's still interesting to know about them. I know I'm not a linguist, but I love to know them because I love English 
Hi Jamie, Many thanks for your comments indeed. It's really very kind of you to "see through" my mind. Truly speaking, sometimes I have a lot of problems with my non-native teachers. Of course, I am always very much grateful to them all, but no one is perfect, especially when they are not native speakers, so I love to learn more than just what I'm taught in school. (For your information, here in my country, English is a compulsory subject at school, but we students can just study grammar and vocabulary => no reading and no speaking. From that fact, I assume you know how our English is getting along )
And, dear Alan, I'm so sorry to disturb you. I will try not to be so paranoid 
P.S: Hi Jamie, may I ask you this question: why do you think I'm a boy and not a girl?  _________________
... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. 
Sorry seems to be the hardest word... |
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Nessie I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Tue May 20, 2008 12:23 pm Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| Quote: | You seem to be extremely confused about even simple things in English, Molly.
I suggest you start your own separate threads. Your special problems and difficulties can be dealt with more effectively that way. . |
But this is entirely on topic, isn't it? Are you saying that we cannot challenge you on your comments about usage? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Tue May 20, 2008 12:28 pm Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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Do you know how to quote properly? Do you know how to read?
| Molly wrote: | | Are you saying that we cannot challenge you on your comments about usage? |
Isn't challenging a comment that wasn't made the same as arguing with yourself? You only seem to argue with yourself, Molly.
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Tue May 20, 2008 12:31 pm Is this sentence grammatically correct in formal English? |
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| I see. So the sentence is fine in informal English also, right? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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Tue May 20, 2008 12:43 pm Grammatically correct? (It is the only reason I stay on here.) |
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I'd suggest starting your own thread. . |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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