"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?

nessie · Sun May 25, 2008 17:02 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Hi,
What's the difference between "way of doing something" and "way to do something"?
I'm still very confused about when to use "noun + to V" and "noun + of + gerund" Shocked

Please help! (+_+)
Many thanks in advance
Nessie
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Haihao · Mon May 26, 2008 4:47 am *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

"the way of doing something" lays emphasis on how you perform something. while "the way to do something." on how you get something or somewhere. i.e.

1. the way of making glass.
2. the way to get rich.

nessie · Sat May 31, 2008 18:54 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Sorry but I still don't get it very well...

nessie · Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:51 am *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

May I have some more specific explanation, please?

MrPedantic · Sun Jun 01, 2008 13:20 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

1. way of doing X
2. way to do X

For me, the difference is one of focus: #1 puts you inside the action, whereas #2 looks at the action from the outside. Thus:

3. That's the way to do it ] an action envisaged as a whole
4. That's one way of doing it ] an action envisaged in progress

Since the nuance is one of focus, both versions may be available to the speaker in a particular context.

It will very probably be different for other speakers, however.

MrP

nessie · Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:03 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

So let me try giving an example:

1/
A friend asks me how to make boil eggs and I say: "you just have to pour water into a pot, then put the eggs into it and boil them - that's the way to do it" (action as a whole)

2/
This time a friend asks me the same question and I tell her what to do as I am doing it, and I say: "this is the way of doing it" (action in progress)

So do I understand it correctly?

Yankee · Mon Jun 02, 2008 13:47 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Hi Nessie

I would use 'way to do' in both of your sentences.

As MrP said, the use of 'do' versus 'doing' often amounts to looking at something as one entire act vs an activity. However, your two options do not amount to a simple choice between 'do' and 'doing' because the word 'of' must be followed by 'doing' (i.e. the -ing form of the verb).

In your second sentence, the use of the words 'the way' sounds odd to me. Any of the following sentences would sound more natural to my ear:

- "This is one way of doing it."
- "This is my way of doing it."
- "This is a less complicated way of doing it."
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nessie · Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:00 am *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Hi Amy,
If my example doesn't make sense, could you give me another example of yours?

Many thanks
Nessie

Yankee · Tue Jun 03, 2008 16:20 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Hi Nessie

I've made some changes in your original example. As I said, the way you used the word 'the' in the context sounded odd to my ear.

1/
A friend asks me how to make boiled eggs and I say:
"You just have to pour water into a pot, then put the eggs into it and boil them - that's the way to do it."

2/
This time a friend sees that I am doing something, but she isn't sure what I'm doing and/or why I'm doing it. (Perhaps she sees me putting a pot full of water and eggs into the oven.) She asks me what I am doing and I say: "This is my way of boiling eggs."
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nessie · Tue Jun 03, 2008 19:56 pm *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

Hi Amy, I found these in the BNC;

http://sara.natcorp.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/saraWeb?qy=the+way+of+doing

MrPedantic · Wed Jun 04, 2008 0:02 am *"way of doing something" vs "way to do something"?*

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