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#2 (permalink) Tue May 27, 2008 17:10 pm please explain |
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| Someone/you asked me to call you. (obligation/necessity) |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Tue May 27, 2008 19:29 pm please explain |
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Thanks Molly..
Big help for me
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#4 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:09 pm please explain |
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| Molly wrote: |
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. I agree that 'I was asked to call you' might be reworded as 'Someone asked me to call you'. However, 'You asked me to call you' is an unlikely rewording for 'I was asked to call you'. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#5 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:19 pm please explain |
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| Yankee wrote: |
However, 'You asked me to call you' is an unlikely rewording for 'I was asked to call you'. . |
How unlikely? |
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#6 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:26 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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Hi Molly Why don't you explain why you think that particular rewording is likely. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#7 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:31 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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Hi Molly Why don't you explain why you think that particular rewording is likely. . |
Why me? You're the one who questioned it. |
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#8 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:40 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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. You're the one who presented it as a rewording. Are you saying that you had no particular reason for doing so? . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#9 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:42 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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| Yankee wrote: |
. You're the one who presented it as a rewording. Are you saying that you had no particular reason for doing so? . |
Try euphemism, for starters, Amy.
So, why do you find it unlikely? |
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#10 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:43 pm please explain |
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| Molly wrote: |
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Where does this fit in, by the way?
Do you mean that the first rewording indicates "obligation", and the second "necessity"?
All the best, old chap,
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#11 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:44 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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Hi guys
"Someone asked me to call you" does not equate with "You asked me to call you" unless the speaker wants to say that you are just anybody no one special. This would not be the correct interpretation, and possibly deliberate irony or a put down.
"I was asked to call you" would not explicitly say where the request was coming from but would exclude "you".
Why would you replace one pronoun "I" with another "you" in relation to meaning?
Unless very specific or contextual I can not see how informing a learner that "I" means "you" is useful or beneficial. Would someone ; ) care to elaborate how this helps, and does not hinder learning the meaning? _________________ Please meet Stewart Tunncilff |
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#12 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:45 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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| I was asked to call you... . (Obligation/Necessity.) |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#13 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 15:58 pm please explain |
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Hi
You stated;
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| Someone/you asked me to call you. (obligation/necessity) |
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This clearly replaces "I" with "you" in your explanation,why? _________________ Please meet Stewart Tunncilff |
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#14 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 16:01 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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| Molly wrote: |
| I was asked to call you... . (Obligation/Necessity.) |
But how does "obligation" and "necessity" fit in here?
(I don't quite understand what you mean.)
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#15 (permalink) Sun Jun 01, 2008 16:14 pm Explain this type of sentence: I was asked to call you. |
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Hi Mr Pedantic
I was asked to call you is in essence a request from someone else. It could be an obligation or necessity by context or tone. However to say it is intrinsically is quite unusual.
1. Could you call my wife for me? 2. I would appreciate if you did a follow up call concerning the last meeting? 3. Please, call the area manager tomorrow?
The last could be an order and therefore you feel obliged or necessitated to do this. However it is not the only standard usage.
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