A special use of Participle? (...if we think of them AS MAKING UP a single item.)

[duc]

Hello everyone,
I have just read the Longman grammar book and come across this sentence:
''...however, phrases connected by ''and'' can also be followed by singular verb if we think of them AS MAKING UP a single item.''
Please read carefully about the word in capitals, I don't understand the use of ''V-ing '' here very much.Exactly I can't make out whether ''making'' here is gerund or present participle but I expect it to be participle - I think Gerund doesn't make sense here.So If I am true which means it's participle ,please tell me what ''making'' stands for (such as a clause,as in ''after GOING SWIMMING,Peter had lunch'').Thanks in advance!!!!!!
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[Alan]

Hi Duc,

Another way of describing 'gerund' is to call it a verbal noun. The participle form can be distinguished because it is a substitute for a main verb.

You can say Charlie likes swimming, where 'swimming' functions as a verbal noun. But in your sentence ''after GOING SWIMMING, Peter had lunch", you can see the verb function as - after he had gone swimming.

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[duc]

But as you see I wonder whether ''MAKING'' in my sentence is Participle .Because participle can stands for a clause and I take the example ''after GOING SWIMMING, Peter had lunch" to illustrate it .And the problem I'm having now is about the first sentence.I don't know whether ''Making'' is a participle or a gerund.If a participle,what does it stands for (as the example above) ?Could you please help me?

[Alan]

Hi Duc,

You can find the verb element in your sentence rather than the verbal noun because it really means: we think of them as if they were/are making up a single item.

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[duc]

Yes I certainly know what the sentence means, but I just wonder about the use of participle ''making'' .How can I use it ? I just want to understand it thoroughly.

[duc]

I find it is the same as in ''He is regarded as being dishonest'' and now I realize it is quite popular in English but Can someone show me a thorough explanation for my problem above?

[duc]

Any more help ,please ?

[Ralf]

[duc]

But I think it doesn't make sense very much because ''making'' is an action and it can't considered as people or thing that carry out action.

[Ralf]

You need to keep semantics separate from syntax.
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[duc]

So which ones do you find more natural :
1/ I thought her story as being made up. (gerund)
2/ I thought her story as made up. (past participle)

[Ralf]

[duc]

Thank you very much.

[Molly]

[duc]

''I thought/considered her story made up/fabricated.''
So Molly,do you mean it is past participle?