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Nobody can stop you from using 'complicate' in the original sentence (i.e. in the other 'complicate' thread) if you are determined to do so. Whether that's the best word to use in that sentence is another question entirely.
I would suggest that the particular version of English (i.e. Australian, American, British, Nigerian, Indian, etc.) has nothing whatsoever to do with whether 'complicate' is the best choice of words in sweetpumpkin's original question.
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| #18 (permalink) Mon Jun 02, 2008 17:22 pm Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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And often the answer is based on personal preference and need, isn't it?
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| I would suggest that the particular version of English (i.e. Australian, American, British, Nigerian, Indian, etc.) has nothing whatsoever to do with whether 'complicate' is the best choice of words in sweetpumpkin's original question. |
And how did you reach that conclusion? What research into those variants have you done? |
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| #19 (permalink) Mon Jun 02, 2008 23:57 pm Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Alas! How lonely it is down here with this non-native duo!
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Molly isn't non-native, Haihao.
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| #20 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 0:18 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Molly isn't non-native, Haihao.
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Mr P, when you have the proof of such, post it here. Until then, save your cheap shots for your girl/boyfriends. |
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| #21 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 0:49 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Alas! How lonely it is down here with this non-native duo!
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Molly isn't non-native, Haihao.
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Gotcha! :D Again! Why do you make me say it again and again, dear MrP? Lemme say it just one more time but hopefully the last time: you overvalue my English knowledge. Why for the heaven's sake does a grown-ups' conversation need to make every word come down to a letter's level? You really disappointed me, again, MrP, and made me laugh. :) |
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| #22 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 0:50 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Si documentum requiris, circumspice.
A "cheap shot" to call a non-native a native speaker?
I don't think so.
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| #23 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 0:53 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Si documentum requiris, circumspice.
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Are you on the edge of your wits, too? |
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| #24 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:07 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Si documentum requiris, circumspice.
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Are you on the edge of your wits, too? |
Thank goodness you didn't say "wit". Mr P and wit do not go happily in hand. Also, Mr P and proof are not often bed partners.
He's been spouting that "Molly isn't non-native" all over the Internet for at least a year. He's never had the guts to post proof though. Lets' see if he comes up with it this time. |
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| #25 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:22 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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He's been spouting that "Molly isn't non-native" all over the Internet
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Is it such a terrible thing, to be taken for a native speaker?
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| #26 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:34 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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| I have to admit you are a good man, MrP. IMHO, the vulgar talk going on around here doesn't deserve your nobility. No kidding. :) |
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| #27 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:18 am My two cents |
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Nobody can stop you from using 'complicate' in the original sentence (i.e. in the other 'complicate' thread) if you are determined to do so. Whether that's the best word to use in that sentence is another question entirely.
I would suggest that the particular version of English (i.e. Australian, American, British, Nigerian, Indian, etc.) has nothing whatsoever to do with whether 'complicate' is the best choice of words in sweetpumpkin's original question.
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Hi Amy,
I am very happy to see your comment here. :) With my sincerest respect for you, I'd like to give a few personal opinions concerning the matter if I may.
We do have restrictions with languages. We learn grammar etc in order to become a better master of it. However, that doesn't necessarily mean we should sit back into the niche of "best choice" to feel safe and comfortable. Language shouldn't become our ruler or master but we should. Language is no more than our tongue so do not ever make it our master. We should sometimes take the guts to go a step further to make an even better and richer English without killing any possibility conveniently. If Americans didn't have the guts to make a language of their own, you surely were never able to put the proudful line "native American English teacher" under every post you made.
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| #28 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:10 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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Hi Haihao
I agree with you entirely that you should feel free to experiment with language. However, it is my firm belief that some experiments will be more successful and effective than others. Some experiments will be fun. Others will be creative and interesting. Some will flop miserably. It seems to me that you and Molly are frantically attempting to label typos as valid examples of usage. It is my opinion that this particular experiment with the word 'complicate' will end up as a flop and amounts to 'much ado about nothing'.
I have also posted again in the other 'complicated' thread. Naturally, you are free to ignore or disagree with my opinion.
Have a good day.
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| #29 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:28 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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You seem to love being one, so... |
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| #30 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:41 am Collocating the adjective "complicate". |
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| the vulgar talk going on around here doesn't deserve your nobility. |
Would you say Mr P is not participating in posting "vulgar" language. |
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