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Here, it sounds OK:
"No one ivory tower could be enough for this native." |
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| #3 (permalink) Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:32 am "no one"? |
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"No one ivory tower"?
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| #4 (permalink) Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:56 am "no one"? |
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| nessie wrote: |
| "No one ivory tower"? |
No one = no single thing
"The term Ivory Tower designates a world or atmosphere where intellectuals engage in pursuits that are disconnected from the practical concerns of everyday life."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivory_tower |
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| #5 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:25 am the phrase with "no one" |
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But "no one ivory tower" still sounds a bit weird to me. Could you please give me another example?
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| #6 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:05 am the phrase with "no one" |
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| nessie wrote: |
| But "no one ivory tower" still sounds a bit weird to me. Could you please give me another example? |
Which part don't you understand?
Do you understand these, for example?
1. No one ordinary person can can impose their will on this forum.
2. In those four boroughs where no one party had overall control there was a much more pronounced rise in Labour support.
3. In Mozambique, there is a wide diversity of languages and in some provinces no one language is dominant. |
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| #7 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:46 am the phrase with "no one" |
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No Molly, I can't understand any of them. I think "no" simply means "not any", and so, in your sentences, "one" should be omitted...
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| #8 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:54 am the phrase with "no one" |
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| Molly wrote: |
Do you understand these, for example?
1. No one ordinary person can can impose their will on this forum.
2. In those four boroughs where no one party had overall control there was a much more pronounced rise in Labour support.
3. In Mozambique, there is a wide diversity of languages and in some provinces no one language is dominant. |
I'm not a whizz at English, but I think you meant "No" instead of "No one". :) |
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| #9 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:18 am the phrase with "no one" |
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| lost_soul wrote: |
| I'm not a whizz at English, but I think you meant "No" instead of "No one". :) |
How about here?
1. There are no two people affected by drink in the same way.
2. No two amendments can be on the floor at the same time.
3. Since no two mice are identical, let alone two human beings, replacing X would make a difference.
The one, two, three, etc. are there for emphasis. |
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| #10 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:18 pm the phrase with "no one" |
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I agree with you about cases of "no + two/ three/etc +noun", but " no + one + noun" still seems very odd to me, Molly. :O:O
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| #11 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:52 pm the phrase with "no one" |
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| nessie wrote: |
| I agree with you about cases of "no + two/ three/etc +noun", but " no + one + noun" still seems very odd to me, Molly. :O:O |
Maybe you just need time to adjust to it.
Similar expressions with emphasis added:
Not one person will help.
Not one single person will help.
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Who came to the party?
Nobody.
Nobody at all.
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Who came to the party?
Not a soul.
Not one single soul. |
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| #12 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:54 pm the phrase with "no one" |
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Hi, nessie.
Where did you take this sentence? 'One' is not followed by a noun, it is used instead of it. If we omit 'one', what should we use instead? (I ask, I don't know) :)
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| #13 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 17:58 pm the phrase with "no one" |
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| 'One' is not followed by a noun, ... . |
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no one person...
"Person" is a noun there. |
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| #14 (permalink) Tue Jun 03, 2008 18:05 pm the phrase with "no one" |
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:) that there were no one available
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| :) that there were no one available |
Sorry? |
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