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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 05, 2008 20:47 pm   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

I hope someone can help. I'm trying to give an explanation to an individual for why we do not use the definite article "the" when we are writing - specifically, "CRA" or "Canada Revenue Agency". This person insists on writing, "the CRA" or "the Canada Revenue Agency". I know it is gramatically incorrect to use the article, but how can I explain it? I've tried to tell him that it's perfectly acceptable in speech, but not when it's written.

Thanks for your help,

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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #2 (permalink) Thu Jun 05, 2008 21:54 pm   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

If the full name of the initialism includes "the", then it's normally included in writing and in formal to medium formal speaking.

Looks like yours has "the" as part of its name.

"The Voluntary Disclosures Program (VDP) allows taxpayers to come forward and correct inaccurate or incomplete information or disclose material they did not report during previous dealings with the CRA, without penalty or prosecution.

Maybe this will help."

http://folk.uio.no/lynnp/Grammar_tips/Articles_and_abbreviations.pdf
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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #3 (permalink) Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:56 am   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

Molly:

I would agree with you in the example you have quoted, but CRA is an acronym for Canada Revenue Agency and the latter does not include "the" in its name. In your example, I would agree that the use of the definite article is appropriate, however, if you used the full name, "Canada Revenue Agency", I don't think you would put "the" in front of the name, would you?

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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #4 (permalink) Fri Jun 06, 2008 7:54 am   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

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I would agree with you in the example you have quoted, but CRA is an acronym for Canada Revenue Agency and the latter does not include "the" in its name.


But is it an acronym? Do you pronounce it as if it were a word, e.g. CRA as "crah", like NATO is pronounced as "nayto"? If you don't and you say "C-R-A", it's an intialism.

Basically, if the full form does not include the article, do not use the article at any time. If the article is included in the full name, you can omit it when speaking casually or in writing when it's a heading - as they do on the CRA - website or a news headline.
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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #5 (permalink) Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:00 am   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

Molly:

You are correct, CRA is an initialism. I will go with your last statement -- as the full form does not carry "the" in front of it, the article should be omitted, especially when referring to CRA as a proper noun.

One further clarification: if we are using CRA as an adjective, e.g. "the CRA website", then of course the article is used because we are really talking about the website. Correct?

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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #6 (permalink) Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:04 am   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

Maggie P. wrote:
Molly:

One further clarification: if we are using CRA as an adjective, e.g. "the CRA website", then of course the article is used because we are really talking about the website. Correct?

Maggie P.


Correct.
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Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken #7 (permalink) Sun Jun 08, 2008 18:32 pm   Use of definite article "the" in written form vs. spoken
 

Molly:

Thanks for helping to resolve this!

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