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| MrPedantic wrote: | I have seen some very unusual threads on the subject of "Respect". I'm not sure there would be a consensus.
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What do you mean by "unusual"? |
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| Tue Jun 10, 2008 21:23 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Molly wrote: | | MrPedantic wrote: | I have seen some very unusual threads on the subject of "Respect". I'm not sure there would be a consensus.
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What do you mean by "unusual"? |
You really don't want to know. (No, really.)
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 0:21 am Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| MrPedantic wrote: | You really don't want to know. (No, really.)
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But I do. I do. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:42 am Fish don't have feelings... |
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.....they react on instinct....does that make a difference?
Still, I'm having trouble over the concept of "respect" being used in the same sentence as "killing", whether that killing is being done out of one's own compassioniate perception that what they believe they are are doing to a live fish is showing "respect" by dispatchiong it quickly.
I believe this needs a deeper explanation than just a literal translation. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:09 am Fish don't have feelings... |
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| bayman wrote: | .....they react on instinct....does that make a difference?
Still, I'm having trouble over the concept of "respect" being used in the same sentence as "killing", whether that killing is being done out of one's own compassioniate perception that what they believe they are are doing to a live fish is showing "respect" by dispatchiong it quickly.
I believe this needs a deeper explanation than just a literal translation. |
I think your question is now going beyond language into psychology and anthropology. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:36 am Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Quote: | | I think your question is now going beyond language into psychology and anthropology. |
Much language use begins in those areas. Do you feel out of your depth? |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 14:48 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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Had I believed the answer didn't branch out into many comprehensive variables, I probably wouldn't have asked.
Came here hoping a brainiac might be around who did a thesis on the matter, or perhaps a College Prof.
Directions to unusual threads or discussions on the use of the word "respect", and perhaps on any interpretations of its several definitions, are welcome. My searches were to no avail.
Consensus not needed. Going off on a tangent, no help. Opinions, well, what can I say.
My thanks to those who've contributed here, though an answer hasn't really hit me. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 16:07 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Quote: | | My thanks to those who've contributed here, though an answer hasn't really hit me. |
Maybe you should pay for a language advice service. That way you may get what you demand. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:20 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Quote: | | Maybe you should pay for a language advice service. That way you may get what you demand. |
Have you ever googled, "language advice service" to see what you get?
If so, please show me where the answer is. |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:30 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| bayman wrote: | | Quote: | | Maybe you should pay for a language advice service. That way you may get what you demand. |
Have you ever googled, "language advice service" to see what you get?
If so, please show me where the answer is. |
Have you tried paying for answers? |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 17:49 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Molly wrote: | | bayman wrote: | | Quote: | | Maybe you should pay for a language advice service. That way you may get what you demand. |
Have you ever googled, "language advice service" to see what you get?
If so, please show me where the answer is. |
Have you tried paying for answers? |
Molly, give it up! You don't have to harass absolutely EVERYBODY! |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 18:13 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Do you pronounce it "huh-RASS" or "Harris"? |
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 19:51 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| bayman wrote: | If somebody says they have respect for a live fish by killing it quickly after catching it, and before putting it in a cooler of ice, is that proper use of the word "respect"?
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The speaker in your example catches the fish for food; he kills it quickly, in order to minimise its suffering; and he presents the whole process as an example of "respect" for the fish.
Now consider the opposite image. Sometimes people are prosecuted for putting animals in microwaves, using them as live footballs, etc. In these instances, animals are killed for pleasure, and their suffering is maximised.
Now the latter case might be called an example of "disrespect", because the animal has been treated as an object. In the original example, however, the fact that suffering has been minimised demonstrates that the speaker does not regard the animal as merely an object. The comparison might therefore justify the use of the word "respect", in the speaker's mind.
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| Wed Jun 11, 2008 20:17 pm Is this proper use of the word "respect"? |
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| Quote: | | Have you tried paying for answers? |
Have you ever actually answered a question correctly for free?
Hey MrP, thanx....though fish don't really suffer. Doesn't really matter, because that's a whole different discussion. |
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