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#2 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 0:12 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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Most British people say [mɛʊbaɪl], but some say [mɛʊbəl]. Most Americans say [moʊbəl], but a few say [moʊbaɪl]. I've never, ever heard an American say [ˈmoubiːl foun]. It seems impossible. (Anyway, Americans usually say cellphone.)
The two pronunciations of "phone" are just regional variations on the pronunciation of the vowel /o/, so I just don't understand your question. You'll find people in both countries who use either pronunciation.
By the way, in the US, the word "mobile" means "moveable" when pronounced [moʊbəl], but when pronounced [moʊbiːl], it means a hanging sculpture. |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:02 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
The two pronunciations of "phone" are just regional variations on the pronunciation of the vowel /o/, so I just don't understand your question. You'll find people in both countries who use either pronunciation.
Hi Jamie, Thank you very much for your help. I just meant that I don't know how to pronounce /əu/ and /ou/ differently...
By the way, in the US, the word "mobile" means "moveable" when pronounced [moʊbəl], but when pronounced [moʊbiːl], it means a hanging sculpture.
So it is a noun when pronouced [moʊbiːl], and an adjective when pronounced [moʊbəl]? By the way, what do you mean by "a hanging scrupture", Jamie?
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#4 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:00 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| By the way, what do you mean by "a hanging scrupture", Jamie? |
a decoration made of small objects tied to wires or string which is hung up so that the objects move when air blows around them _________________ I am an incurable optimist. |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:16 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| For me, /ˈməubaɪlf_əun/. |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:58 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Molly wrote: |
| For me, /ˈməubaɪlf_əun/. |
Then you're not linking correctly. |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:04 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| Molly wrote: |
| For me, /ˈməubaɪlf_əun/. |
Then you're not linking correctly. |
In whose variant?
In my variant, it would come out like this:
/ˈməubaɪlfəun/. |
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#9 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:13 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Molly wrote: |
| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| Molly wrote: |
| For me, /ˈməubaɪlf_əun/. |
Then you're not linking correctly. |
In whose variant? |
In the standard British and American variants, /ˈməubaɪlf_əun/ would be wrong, because the /f/ has to begin the syllable of the next word, not end the first word and leave the second word vowel-initial without a consonantal syllable onset. This is universal in native-speaker English. Either you pronounce it wrong or your transcription is buggy. |
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#10 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:15 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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Then there's:
snowmobile |
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#11 (permalink) Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:17 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| This is universal in native-speaker English. |
Which variants would you class as "native-speaker"? And why should one follow only native-speaker prescription? There's a world of Englishes out there and all doing just fine.
I pronounce it as one word: /ˈməubaɪlfəun/ |
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#12 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 19:34 pm Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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I suspect that my browser needs an update, as I can only see little boxes where symbols should be.
I tend to hear "mo-" with a stress and the vowel of "go", and "bile" with the vowel of "while".
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#13 (permalink) Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:07 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Molly wrote: |
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| This is universal in native-speaker English. |
Which variants would you class as "native-speaker"? And why should one follow only native-speaker prescription? There's a world of Englishes out there and all doing just fine. |
Oh, there you go again, beating that same dead horse. |
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#14 (permalink) Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:39 am Pronunciation of "mobile" in "mobile phone"? |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| Oh, there you go again, beating that same dead horse. |
Dead for whom? |
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