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#2 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:01 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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Hi Alex
Yes, I'd say you could also use "risen to the occasion" without any real difference in meaning. . . By the way, you've either got the wrong verb or a couple of typos in the title of this thread. :wink: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:51 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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Thank you, Amy!
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By the way, you've either got the wrong verb or a couple of typos in the title of this thread. :wink: . |
The typos are gone :wink: |
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#4 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:56 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| I've heard "rise to the occasion" used in reference to men who suffer temporary impotency due to over-consumption of alchohol and as a result are unable to copulate, so to speak. I've never heard "rise to the challenge" used in that way. Maybe each expression is found in different contexts. |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:58 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| I've heard "rise to the occasion" used in reference to men who suffer temporary impotency due to over-consumption of alchohol and as a result are unable to copulate, so to speak |
What kind of books do you usually read Molly? :wink: _________________ Non-native speaker of English
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#6 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:43 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| What kind of books do you usually read Molly? :wink: |
Ones with pictures. :P |
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#7 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:53 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Just to quote daemon99's "I am head over heels in love with English" to ask a question: why "head over heels"? Shouldn't "heels over head" be reasonable to manifest the hidden meaning? (half fun) :) |
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#8 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:00 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Haihao wrote: |
| Just to quote daemon99's "I am head over heels in love with English" to ask a question: why "head over heels"? Shouldn't "heels over head" be reasonable to manifest the hidden meaning? (half fun) :) |
No, it shouldn't, I believe, the idiom goes "to be head over heels in love" :) |
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#9 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:01 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Could you tell me why, Alex? :) |
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#10 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:29 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Could you tell me why, Alex? :) |
Many native speakers I've met do say only "I'm head over heels". |
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#11 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:56 am rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| I mean, why? Is it normal to be head over heels? Everyone is, isn't it? To fall in love intensely should be heels over head, right? I am sorry I made a half fun on it but I am sure the idiom originally meant that. |
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#12 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:40 pm rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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Hi Haihao
You're right about that idiom not being particularly logical, but logic is often hard (if not impossible) to find in idioms. Have you heard the expression "I could care less"? And how is it possible to "watch your head" when someone tells you to do this? :lol: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#13 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:15 pm rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Yankee wrote: |
Hi Haihao
You're right about that idiom not being particularly logical, but logic is often hard (if not impossible) to find in idioms. Have you heard the expression "I could care less"? And how is it possible to "watch your head" when someone tells you to do this? :lol: . |
Hi, Amy
Actually, "I could care less" is somewhat logical (like some time ago in the same situation, I could care even less about it, but now my "care threshold" has risen) :)
What beats me is why you say "that's a likely story" when you don't believe that the story holds true. (like Speaker A: Yesterday I shook hands with the president Speaker B: That's a likely story)
As you would say, go figure :lol: |
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#14 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:20 pm rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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| Could you tell me why, Alex? :) |
Hi, Haihao
To me, "head over heels" always conjures up a mental image of a person who's running so fast to the object of his/her adoration that he's almost rolling on the ground with his head over his heels. I know it's a bit crazy, but that's how I imagine it :) |
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#15 (permalink) Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:20 pm rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion |
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. Interesting interpretation, Alex. :lol: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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