rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion

lost_soul · Mon Jun 09, 2008 21:16 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Hi,

I lighted on this sentence:

Yankee · Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:01 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Hi Alex

Yes, I'd say you could also use "risen to the occasion" without any real difference in meaning.
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By the way, you've either got the wrong verb or a couple of typos in the title of this thread. Wink

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lost_soul · Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:51 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Thank you, Amy!

Molly · Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:56 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

I've heard "rise to the occasion" used in reference to men who suffer temporary impotency due to over-consumption of alchohol and as a result are unable to copulate, so to speak. I've never heard "rise to the challenge" used in that way. Maybe each expression is found in different contexts.

daemon99 · Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:58 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Molly · Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:43 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Haihao · Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:53 am *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Just to quote daemon99's "I am head over heels in love with English" to ask a question: why "head over heels"? Shouldn't "heels over head" be reasonable to manifest the hidden meaning? (half fun) Smile

lost_soul · Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:00 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Haihao · Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:01 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Could you tell me why, Alex? Smile

Molly · Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:29 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Haihao · Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:56 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

I mean, why? Is it normal to be head over heels? Everyone is, isn't it? To fall in love intensely should be heels over head, right? I am sorry I made a half fun on it but I am sure the idiom originally meant that.

Yankee · Tue Jun 10, 2008 13:40 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Hi Haihao

You're right about that idiom not being particularly logical, but logic is often hard (if not impossible) to find in idioms. Have you heard the expression "I could care less"? And how is it possible to "watch your head" when someone tells you to do this? Laughing

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lost_soul · Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:15 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

lost_soul · Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:20 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

Yankee · Tue Jun 10, 2008 14:20 pm *rise to the challenge v.s. rise to the occasion*

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Interesting interpretation, Alex. Laughing

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