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Standard spoken English: What is it?


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Standard spoken English: What is it? #46 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 20:12 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

MrPedantic wrote:
Molly wrote:
Tell us which English "rural items" you would like omitted form your version of "spoken Standard British English", will you?

To what end?

MrP

For the sake of linguistics./? Because of the title of this thread, or that of this forum.

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Standard spoken English: What is it? #47 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 20:17 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

(Rural or regional accents, by the way.)

Ah, I thought might have overlooked that. So, which accent does your "spoken standard BrEng" use/prescribe?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #48 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 22:24 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

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Do you think that's what he meant? And why would I say that?

It would be nice to know exactly what you were saying. What was it?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #49 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 22:25 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Yankee wrote:
Are you?

You are, that's for sure.
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #50 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 22:56 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Back to the thread topic:

Is the concept of a "spoken standard English" unproblematic?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #51 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 22:58 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Back to the thread topic:

We (includes native English-speakers) know very little about the syntactic structure of spoken English. Do you agree?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #52 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:00 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

When Mr P mentions "standard spoken (British) English" does he mean that English which is spoken by educated speakers in formal situations?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #53 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:02 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Why have most linguists failed to describe the grammar of speech?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #54 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:05 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

And, looking at Mr P's description of what he calls "standard spoken (British) English" above, don't you think that he's referring to what should really be called "spoken standard (British) English"?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #55 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:10 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Is it true that written English has continued to be the reference point for the standard variety?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #56 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:25 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

<ten posts in one go>

Confused

Have you ever read Grimm's story of the brave little tailor, M?

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Standard spoken English: What is it? #57 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:33 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

MrPedantic wrote:
<ten posts in one go>

Confused

Have you ever read Grimm's story of the brave little tailor, M?

MrP

Have you ever left the "age of reason", P?
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #58 (permalink) Sun Jun 22, 2008 23:39 pm   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

Molly wrote:
Have you ever left the "age of reason", P?

What an interesting comment. Do you see the brothers Grimm as part of the "Age of Reason"?

MrP

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Edit: the Grimms', not Grimm's, I suppose, in my earlier post.
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #59 (permalink) Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:04 am   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

MrPedantic wrote:
What an interesting comment. Do you see the brothers Grimm as part of the "Age of Reason"?

I see your grim Grimm posts and taunts as an example of avoiding the above questions. When you're ready...
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Standard spoken English: What is it? #60 (permalink) Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:09 am   Standard spoken English: What is it?
 

I'll pass, if you don't mind. Too many.

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