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usage of "center" Thu Jun 12, 2008 13:51 pm  usage of "center"		  
Hello,
Anybody knows if there are any rules regulating usage of the word "center" in names of organizations?
For example, which of the variants is more correct:
Center for Identification Systems
or
Identification System Center?

The Center is a public enterprise dealing with software development and research.

Thank you!
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usage of "center" Thu Jun 12, 2008 19:06 pm  usage of "center"		  
I think, in the meaning of 'enterprise', it would be better to use Centre at the end. (the latter: Identification System Center)
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:43 am  usage of "center"		  
Center for Identification Systems
This would normally be a center that studies and develops identification systems. They make them, and that's where you can get them.

Identification System Center
This sounds like a center where something is used or implemented. In other words, there the identification system has already been developed somewhere, and it's operated at this center.

So...

Center for X is usually a place where X is studied, researched and developed.

X Center is usually a place where X is implemented.

Center for Nutrition - This would be a nutrition research center.

Nutrition Center - This would be a place where people can get the right food.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:08 am  usage of "center"		  
Wow! Thank you! Exclamation
I surmised there must be some difference...
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:19 am  usage of "center"		  
Yes, useful information.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:35 am  usage of "center"		  
study center
center for studies
center for studying

???
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 12:41 pm  usage of "center"		  
Molly wrote:
study center

This is a place where students go to study, i.e., do their homework.

Molly wrote:
center for studies

This usually takes the form of "center for X studies":

Center for Middle Eastern Studies
(Where research is done on the Middle East)

Center for Nonproliferation Studies
(Where they research methods of preventing the proliferation of nuclear weapons)

Molly wrote:
center for studying

An oddball foreigner collocation.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 13:05 pm  usage of "center"		  
Quote:
An oddball foreigner collocation.

Not really:

Center for Studying Health System Change (HSC)
Center for Studying and Safeguarding the Intangible Heritage of Belarussians.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 13:15 pm  usage of "center"		  
Molly wrote:
Quote:
An oddball foreigner collocation.

Not really:

Center for Studying Health System Change (HSC)
Center for Studying and Safeguarding the Intangible Heritage of Belarussians.

As I said, an odd foreign-sounding collocation. I don't care where they're located.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 14:37 pm  usage of "center"		  
Center for Researching Athletic Performance

...also known as CRAP.

hehe
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 15:43 pm  usage of "center"		  
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As I said, an odd foreign-sounding collocation. I don't care where they're located.

You didn't say foreign-sounding, you said it was foreign.

And do you mean "foreign to English" or " foreign to your shores"?
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 15:45 pm  usage of "center"		  
prezbucky wrote:
Center for Researching Athletic Performance

...also known as CRAP.

hehe

Now that would be an acronym. Well done!
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 15:48 pm  usage of "center"		  
Molly wrote:
Quote:
As I said, an odd foreign-sounding collocation. I don't care where they're located.

You didn't say foreign-sounding, you said it was foreign.

And do you mean "foreign to English" or " foreign to your shores"?

Oh, stop being obnoxious. You know what I meant.
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usage of "center" Fri Jun 13, 2008 16:01 pm  usage of "center"		  
Oh, stop being obnoxious. You know what I meant.

Sorry, but I don't.

Is this in a foreign place?

Center for Studying Health System Change
600 Maryland Ave, SW #550
Washington, DC 20024
.......

This?

And downtown at New York University, Ireland House is about to be established as a center for studying contemporary Irish culture and politics.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/n/new_york_university/index.html?query=ITALY&field=geo&match=exact
.......

Center for studying Parkinson's Disease

http://www.brci.us/vaResFacilities.htm

.....

Are once more working from your limited knowledge of English in America, Jamie? Maybe it's Chinglish, eh? Laughing
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