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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:03 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Molly wrote:
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Have you ever noticed that other forum members don't usually attack each other?

That "usually" is telling.

Most of the people who "have trouble" with me are native-speakers who get p*ssed off when any nonnative questions their "authority". Nonnatives who have trouble with me are normally those who suck up to native-speakers. I never "have trouble" with Alan, for example and Nessie, Sweetpumpkin, Haihio. Pamela and a few others.

People are scared of you, Molly, because they are afraid of being attacked by you.

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Another sheep joins the fold.

But being a black sheep is nothing special, Molly.
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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:19 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Molly wrote:
Most of the people who "have trouble" with me are native-speakers who get p*ssed off when any nonnative questions their "authority".

That would only be a reasonable assumption if all those native speakers accepted that you were non-native.

For instance, you've lobbed the odd snippet of entertaining invective my way, from time to time; and I certainly don't think you're non-native, as this thread proves.

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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:22 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

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That would only be a reasonable assumption if all those native speakers accepted that you were non-native.

Well, I guess it makes it easier for them to assume I'm native. Who the hell wants nonnatives questioning native "authority", eh?
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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:35 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

I would say that native speakers often change or refine their position, in response to non-native questioning.

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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:36 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

On the level of pedagogical grammar, yes, but beyond that...
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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:43 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Molly wrote:
On the level of pedagogical grammar, yes

I think on questions of interpretation too.

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Calling forum members by their names? Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:05 am  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Go think, if it makes you happy.
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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 15:52 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

molly, what are "nonnatives"?

(i'm pronouncing it "NAHN-uh-tihvz")

Don't forget the hyphen! Non-natives!

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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 15:53 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

prezbucky wrote:
molly, what are "nonnatives"?

(i'm pronouncing it "NAHN-uh-tihvz")

Don't forget the hyphen! Non-natives!

hehe

Why would one need a hypen?
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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 20:05 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Indeed. Why would one need a hyphen? Wink
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In what context would a non-native ESL student say to an ESL teacher:

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Hi Tom

I'm not sure whether there is any universal agreement that 'nonnative' doesn't need a hyphen, but you will find it as an unhyphenated adjective in Webster's. The Cambridge Dictionary, for example, lists many "non-" words (i.e. with hyphen).
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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 20:52 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

...because without it your word is ambiguous. What is "nonnative" (non-a-tive)?

With the hyphen you're clearly saying "someone who is not a native" -- non-native.

There are such words in which the hyphen is not necessary, but in this case it really does help IMO.
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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 20:54 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

Okay, Amy, then let's use it for disambiguation's sake! Employ the hyphen for peace of mind!

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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 20:56 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

check it out -- here's one for which the hyphen actually might make an huge difference in meaning:

antifreeze

Antifreeze is a product used to keep engines from freezing.

Meanwhile, anti-freeze is the state of being against "freeze", whatever that is. lol

"I'm pro-melt."
"Like, totally. I'm anti-freeze."

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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 20:59 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

How about antinative/anti-native, Prez? Wink
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Calling forum members by their names? Tue Jun 24, 2008 21:02 pm  Calling forum members by their names?
 

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