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#3 (permalink) Fri Jun 13, 2008 13:33 pm He still have vs. he still has |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Jun 13, 2008 16:04 pm He still have vs. he still has |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
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Not too difficult, right? |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Jun 13, 2008 22:15 pm He still have vs. he still has |
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If it happens to be interrogative, both are possible, I suppose, at least in spoken English although the questioner didn't finish his/her sentence.
He still have the will to do it?
He still has the will to do it? |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Jun 13, 2008 23:29 pm He still have vs. he still has |
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| Haihao wrote: |
If it happens to be interrogative, both are possible, I suppose, at least in spoken English although the questioner didn't finish his/her sentence.
He still have the will to do it?
He still has the will to do it? |
I agree.
<Does he> He still have the will to do it?
He still has the will to do it?/Has he still the will to do it?
Or: <You say> He still has the will to do it? (for e.g.) |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:38 am He still have vs. he still has |
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| joanabelyn wrote: |
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It might be heard in an interrupted sentence:
1. Does...<long pause>...he still have the will to do it?
but I would be surprised to hear it on its own:
2. He still have the will to do it? / He still have the will to do it.
— except perhaps in a rural dialect where "have" took the place of "has".
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#8 (permalink) Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:05 am He still have vs. he still has |
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| but I would be surprised to hear it on its own: |
I get a feeling you hang around only with those who use full sentences. Am I right?
"noun/pronoun + still...?" (with the auxiliary ellipted -including the auxiliary "does") is very, very common in native speech.
He still working for...? She stilll married to...? You still coming out tonight? They still have the car?
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#9 (permalink) Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:33 am He still have vs. he still has |
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Note the difference, though:
1. He still have the will to do it? 2. He still working for...? 3. She still married to...? 4. You still coming out tonight? 5. They still have the car?
Examples 2 to 4 omit the verb "be", not "do"; while in example 5, the removal of "do" leaves a perfectly normal sentence.
Omission of "does" in #1 on the other hand presents "have" in a different role, and is therefore quite different: it would surprise the addressee, because the resulting sentence can't be distinguished from a performance error for:
6. He still has the will to do it?
I would say that omission of initial "does" in a question is very, very uncommon, in spoken BrE. But if you have found some examples in the BNC, I'll be happy to look at them.
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#10 (permalink) Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:45 am He still have vs. he still has |
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Hi Mr P
The omission of does could occur in a German learner´s usage of English, as do causes some problems .
I agree it would not be used by native speakers. But if there is a region where it is used I am ready to stand corrected.
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#11 (permalink) Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:02 am He still have vs. he still has |
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| stew.t. wrote: |
I agree it would not be used by native speakers. But if there is a region where it is used I am ready to stand corrected.
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Yes; I did wonder whether it might turn up in rural dialects, e.g. in the speech of older people in the West Country.
All the best,
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