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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"


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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sat Jun 21, 2008 21:22 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

OH OK Ill tell you .... but please English people ... think harder ..........

They does NOT refer to people .... it refers to A PERSON and because we do not know if this person is a HE or a SHE we use the plural ...

They who worship the Lord, will forever have a place in Heaven.

e.g. Who left their unbrella here? THEY will get wet today because it is raining! .... no sex, then use plural!

bye bye and happy Easter (smile)
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sat Jun 21, 2008 21:29 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

P.S. I think Amy was the closest if not correct !!!
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sat Jun 21, 2008 21:29 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

Hi HamburgEnglish Smile,
Thanks for your idea Smile
Do you mean people use "they who" instead of "she who/he who" to avoid causing sexism? But do you agree that this usage is applied only in proverbial or literary cases?

Regards
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P.S: Your nickname sounds special Razz Are you English? Wink
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sat Jun 21, 2008 23:58 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

I would agree that Amy is right; but I wouldn't agree that "They" in:

1. They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats.

is a case of "they" for "him/her".

"Best selection of" here premodifies "seats", and refers to a group of seats. Thus the context is of several people, not one.

All the best,

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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 0:18 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

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They does NOT refer to people .... it refers to A PERSON and because we do not know if this person is a HE or a SHE we use the plural ...

What's your opinion on this, Hamburg?

They who arrive early will get the best seat.
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:32 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

Hi Molly

It depends totally on situation ... It is not incorrect to say THEY, but it may sound a little strange in some situations.

For example:

You make a mistake at work and you say to your boss ...

Praise be unto Thee, O Mr Johnson. Forgive me for my mistake, let me keep my job ! (smile)

By the way, Mr Johnson is the boss!

Oh yes and while I think about it, have you see the Darth Vader sketch on YouTube? It is so funny I nearly peed myself! Go to YouTube and type in "Darth vader Canteen", choose the LEGO character version..

Do you know who I am? (laughing)

bye bye ...

Rob
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 10:36 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

Also a good point Mr P. But still does not omit the use of THEY because it could mean a single person getting seats, or a single person completing this action many times and then the seat they get is plural. Remember, the sentence is written in the context of the present simple (nowadays, fact,)
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:47 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

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Do you know who I am? (laughing)

bye bye ...

Rob>

No, but as long as you do, that's OK, isn't it? Cool
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 13:33 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

HamburgEnglish wrote:
But still does not omit the use of THEY because it could mean a single person getting seats, or a single person completing this action many times and then the seat they get is plural.

We certainly should not discriminate against the polypygous purchaser.

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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 16:54 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

Too much argument now (+_+). So in summary, "they who..." is only used in proverbial or literary cases?

Many thanks
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Sun Jun 22, 2008 21:09 pm  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

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Too much argument now (+_+). So in summary, "they who..." is only used in proverbial or literary cases?

And beyond.
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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:06 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

Hello Nessie,

nessie wrote:
So in summary, "they who..." is only used in proverbial or literary cases?


I would say rather that it has a flavour of literary or proverbial usage.

Best wishes,

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Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats" Mon Jun 23, 2008 0:16 am  Phrase "They who arrive early will get the best selection of seats"
 

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I would say rather that it has a flavour of literary or proverbial usage.

Thank goodness.
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