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How to distinguish between different English accents? #16 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 11:40 am   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

daemon99 wrote:
The Americans speak very fast without many pauses/breaks. The British on the other hand don't speak so fast, their speech isn't continuous.


I have to disagree.
My observation is that British tend to cut words off, don't pronounce them fully, while Americans do and their speech is more intelligible to my ear. Also there is many differences in the pronunciation of some words (like "fun")
As for the speed, they speak at the same speed.
You might have come to this conclusion because you've listened to teaching records recorded in British English, where they intentionally slow down their speech so you can understand better, but on the other hand, listened to Americans in movies where they speak freely, at their normal speed.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #17 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:27 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

daemon99 wrote:
Also, some of the accents of American women sound like British (to me, at least). For example, there's this lady who reads the weather report on CNN, she sounds British.

People in other countries don't get the same CNN that we get in the United States. CNN International has news anchors and reporters that are British, German, and even Bulgarian, so if you are not in the US, and you hear someone on CNN who sounds British, then he or she probably really is British.

Both the Americans and the British do something in their speech called "linking" or "liaison", in which we use the last consonant in a word as if it were the first consonant of the next word. So nearly all native English speakers pronounce "he's out" as "he zout", or "there's a bug on the table" as "there za bu gon the table". Many foreigners think that the British speak "more clearly" and make a clearer separation between their words, but I think this is a myth that comes from the fact that these people have learned from British recordings in which the language is spoken with hyper-clarity for the benefit of foreigners. In fact, my students in the US think exactly the opposite -- that American speech is clear and that the British garble everything. Again, this is because they learned from American recordings that are extremely clear, so that foreigners will understand them.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #18 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:38 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Of course Jamie is right. CNN Europe employs staff from different countries so when you watch CNN Europe on a regular basis, you get exposed to a variety of Englishes.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #19 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:54 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Don't anybody forget that there are 572,346,214 different accents in the UK alone, so when you talk about "British English", you're talking about a lot of different accents.

There are fewer accents in North America, but many of them share features with standard British speech, such as the deletion of "R" before other consonants or the ends of words.

Here is a great site for listening to accents of the UK:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/index.shtml

I like this guy:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/voices/recordings/individual/scotland-penicuik-hutchison-mose.shtml

Here is a page that describes various types of accents of the US and the UK.

http://www.ic.arizona.edu/%7Elsp/index.html

This site has accent recordings from almost everywhere:

http://web.ku.edu/idea/

Here's an excerpt from a game show in which NOBODY is really speaking with a standard US accent. The contestant (the singer Kellie Pickler) grew up in North Carolina, and the MC, Jeff Foxworthy, is from Georgia. Kellie's accent is much thicker than Jeff's.



In case you think Kellie is faking ignorance, I can tell you that I worked with a woman once who was just as dumb about geography. I'm convinced it's all sincere.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #20 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 19:27 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
Don't anybody forget that there are 572,346,214 different accents in the UK alone, so when you talk about "British English", you're talking about a lot of different accents.
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The UK population is estimated at 60,943,912 (July 2008 est.)
I don't understand you. Are you trying to say that the average British person speaks English in 10 different accents ? Shocked
What does that number of yours mean?
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #21 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 19:49 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Hi Alex

I have a sneaking suspicion that Jamie's number was a simple typo. He probably meant to write 572,346,241. Mr. Green
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(Jamie's use of that number means "an incredible number of".)
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #22 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 20:37 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Hi, Amy

Oh, Golly!
Yeah, everything falls into place now Laughing
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #23 (permalink) Sat Jun 21, 2008 23:00 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

ROFL Amy ("apple" comment)
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #24 (permalink) Tue Jun 24, 2008 16:49 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

It's hard for me to choose which accent is clearer or easier to listen to. I practically grew up learning British English, spoken by local teachers in Malaysia but I am also highly influenced by TV series from America. I don't think it's true that the theory of listeners of British English are only exposed to clearer version of BrE. I think it depends on the level of education of the person himself and the people's that he mingles with.

When I was small I love the British series "Mind your language", and of course Mr.Brown uses very good English, (obviously, since he is teaching English to foreigners in England in that series) but there was also examples of non-standard BrE (I think it was the janitor) in that series that I find hard to understand. Then again, if I were to listen to somebody from Texas with very heavy accent, I would have had the same problem.

Also, years ago I met a ship captain, an American who runs the ship of my father's company, my biggest impression was, listening to TV is not the same as listening to a real live person(Am I alone in this regard? I hope not). Maybe, at that time I was not exposed much to American accent, and maybe it was also because my father has always told me that the British pronunciation is clearer. Although he did mention about cockney English. Confused

Then, as I was getting older I found myself listening to more American English, TV series,CNN etc. And after a while, for a moment, I thought BrE was hard to listen to (specifically BBC, I have no other sources of English here in Japan), turned out that the speaker of the particular BrE that I listened to was heavily accented with German tongue, I think, but I'm pretty sure it was not Italian, French, or Spanish.

No wonder!

So now I'm back to thinking BrE is clearer. Nevertheless, I cannot say which I understand better. It highly depends on the topic or whether I am listening or not. Wink
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #25 (permalink) Tue Jun 24, 2008 19:59 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Come on, Nina, how can you turn down our sexy R's?! (well, except for those... not... pronounced by Bostonians)

hehe

repeat after me por favor:

Carrrrrr

Barrrrrr

Starrrrr

Furrrrrr

Stirrrrrr

hehe
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #26 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 14:29 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

prezbucky wrote:
Come on, Nina, how can you turn down our sexy R's?! (well, except for those... not... pronounced by Bostonians)

hehe


I didn't say I prefer BrE to AmE. The problem that I have in pronunciation with AmE that I am aware of are:

1. I'm not good at pronouncing any words that end with "er", like later, matter, better and so on. So eventhough I make the R sound in my speech, for the group of words above, I don't make the R sound, sometimes I tried. For example if I try to make the R sound in "butter", I will end up saying "butt-terh".

Do you know Endora from the series "Bewitched"? I would LOVE to have her accent. I think that one will be easier for me. She doesn't pronounce the R sound in words that ends with the syllable "er".

2. I don't know where to put stresses. For example, laBOratory or laboraTOry.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #27 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 14:58 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

NinaZara wrote:
Do you know Endora from the series "Bewitched"? I would LOVE to have her accent. I think that one will be easier for me. She doesn't pronounce the R sound in words that ends with the syllable "er".

Endora has that accent because she's supposed to sound bitchy. You definitely don't want that accent, Nina.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #28 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:05 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Hmm...but I like it. I think it's adorable. Tell me, is that particular accent considered bitchy in general, in your side of the pond that is?
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #29 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:06 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

NinaZara wrote:
Hmm...but I like it. I think it's adorable. Tell me, is that particular accent considered bitchy in general, in your side of the pond that is?

Usually. It depends on who has it.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #30 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:11 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Maybe, if I have that accent with Samantha's personality, it will be super fine.
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