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How to distinguish between different English accents? #31 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 15:46 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

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Endora has that accent because she's supposed to sound bitchy. You definitely don't want that accent, Nina.


But isn't being bitchy considered cool? Wink
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #32 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:50 am   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Nina, dahling:

To do the American R, curl your tongue so that the sides of your tongue are touching the gums just inside of your back/side teeth. (molars and pre-molars). Then just breathe the "errrr" sound, and you should have it.

Laboratory = LAB-ra-tory

... We omit the first O, more or less
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #33 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 16:48 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

And I suppose the the tip of the tongue touches the palate? Right,Tommy?
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #34 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 16:52 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

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And I suppose the the tip of the tongue touches the palate? Right,Tommy?

No, it DOESN'T touch. It just stays curled up a little behind the palate, but it doesn't touch.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #35 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 16:57 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

You're right, it doesn't, in the middle, but somehow, in the end, it ended at the back of my front teeth. Maybe that's what I'm doing wrong.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #36 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 17:03 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

You're supposed to curl it back behind your alveolar ridge, which is that "ledge" right behind your teeth.

This website will show you a diagram of where your tongue should be:

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetics/
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #37 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 17:08 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

It's there, but the tip touches it when I say somehting in the past form, like "curled"

Great site, thanks!
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #38 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 18:38 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

this is an interesting discussion

nina, it sounds like you need to do tongue-tip curling exercises so that you can hold the curled tip of your tongue under, but not on (not touching), the alveolar ridge (as described by jamie). YOU CAN DO IT!

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How to distinguish between different English accents? #39 (permalink) Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:02 am   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Tom, you made it sound like it can be done in the gym. Laughing

And thanks for the kind words, I'm sure somehow I'd manage. Thing is, on days when I spend too much time on English, my friends started asking why I sound like "gaijin" (foreigners, aliens). It's hard, juggling between languages. It's frustrating too, sometimes, but I try focussing on the fun side of it.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #40 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:13 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

After mustering all the courage I had, I decided to post my recording here. I just registered with Kantalk (I did this because I am just so free today), and I see a lot of people do this.

Maybe you can tell my Malay accent?

http://www.kantalk.com/Recording/Play/ID/4551

Oh, BTW, I am not sure whether I said "snack" correctly.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #41 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:29 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Nina, you sound like you've made real progress with those R's. Most of them sound good.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #42 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:38 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Really? Isn't there anything that doesn't sound right? I still cannot enunciate the R's in "her brother".
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #43 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:41 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

NinaZara wrote:
Really? Isn't there anything that doesn't sound right? I still cannot enunciate the R's in "her brother".

Yeah, yeah, but that's not a big deal for an early attempt. Besides, your pronunciation of "brother" was not wrong; it just wasn't rhotic.

The only big problem I noticed was that you pronounced "Wednesday" with three syllables. But that has nothing to do with R.
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #44 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:49 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

Oh, I see. I thought three syllables was correct. I just checked the pronunciation on Dictionary.com. Fewh, I'm so glad you told me! Very Happy
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How to distinguish between different English accents? #45 (permalink) Mon Sep 29, 2008 20:02 pm   How to distinguish between different English accents?
 

WoW!
The discussion seems very, what should we say? Life Changing? like those reality shows where you learn to cook one simple dish and it is a 'fruitfully life-changing' experience for you, which, by the way always ends in tears and the whole family embraced in a crushing hug by "the one" !!
So, Nina, how do you feel now that you've learned to actually pronounce those Rs more acurately? (though acurately is not right since there's no one correct way)

A teacher of mine once told me that we aren't dependent on the language but the other way around, since language is a tool for communication, everybody has the right to choose his favourite tool! I disagree though.
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