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#2 (permalink) Wed Jun 18, 2008 17:47 pm preposition 'to' vs 'for' |
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In American usage, we'd use "to" to indicate the destination in travel.
We'd use "for" for tickets for admission. How much are tickets for Hershey Park? How much are tickets for Spamalot?
It's $30 for my train ticket to New York and $80 for my ticket for the show. |
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Barb_D I'm here quite often ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Wed Jun 18, 2008 19:04 pm preposition 'to' vs 'for' |
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Barb's explanation is right, but in real life people don't follow it 100 percent. You can actually say that you bought a ticket to London or a ticket for London, but "to" is better.
There are some expressions in which both "to" and "for" are correct in regard to destination:
"We're headed to London." "We're headed for London."
Those two sentences mean exactly the same thing.
So the distinction isn't rigid, but if you follow Barb's rule you can at least be sure you'll never be wrong. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Wed Jun 18, 2008 23:12 pm preposition 'to' vs 'for' |
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| Quote: | | You can actually say that you bought a ticket to London or a ticket for London, but "to" is better. |
Isn't "a ticket for London" a short form for "a ticket for the trip/train to London" and "a ticket to London" a short form for "a ticket from here to London"? If so, each form would have a different underlying thought behind it, though the action would be the same in each case, i.e. "travel to London"
It's possible that shortening or ellipsis are occuring:
1. How much is a train ticket for <the journey/trip/train to> Waterloo station? 1a. How much is a train ticket for <arrival at/getting to/travel to> Waterloo station? 2. How much is a train ticket <from here> to Waterloo station? 3. Is this the express train for <the journey/trip/train to> London? 3a. Is this the express train for <arrival at/getting to/travel to> London? 4. Is this the express train <from here> to London? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Wed Jun 18, 2008 23:19 pm preposition 'to' vs 'for' |
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I would agree with M: "to London", to me, implies direction of travel, while "for London" implies purpose.
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#6 (permalink) Wed Jun 18, 2008 23:23 pm preposition 'to' vs 'for' |
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| MrPedantic wrote: | I would agree with M: "to London", to me, implies direction of travel, while "for London" implies purpose.
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Exactly.
It's the same here, IMO.
heading to London heading for London
Though, which answer would you expect to get here?
A: Which way are you heading?
B. To/wards London/for London.
And here: It says this train is for (= going to stop at) Birmingham and Coventry only
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=30330&dict=CALD
So I can add another possibility to my examples from above:
1. How much is a train ticket for/for the train that is going to stop at Waterloo station? 2. Is this the express train for/that is going to stop at* London?
* "At" would be an acceptable preposition there. |
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