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#47 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 13:07 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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I agree with a part of Mr Pedantic's testimony where he argues that it is impossible to have all 77 busy teachers watch a video and send back their responses within less than 2 hours. According to the theory of probabilities, it is next to impossible. Just imagine, that one teaher might be in the middle of some important explanation and cannot be looking at the computer and see your message, another might be out to the rest room, yet another might be having dinner. Besides, to upload the video to the intanet, you need to download it (5 min), place it into a shared folder (5 min), make sure that everyone has access to it, then send out a letter (take into account a possible time lag, since SMTP servers are not very fast).
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#48 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 13:11 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Quote: | | I agree with a part of Mr Pedantic's testimony where he argues that it is impossible to have all 77 busy teachers watch a video and send back their responses within less than 2 hours. |
Great! Now what? More Brownie points from Mr P?
| Quote: | | Just imagine, that one teaher might be in the middle of some important explanation and cannot be looking at the computer and see your message, another might be out to the rest room, yet another might be having dinner. |
It's obvious that you haven't read the thread in detail.
If you want to kiss up to Mr P, at least do it in PMs. Please. |
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#50 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 14:06 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| lost_soul wrote: | | all 77 busy teachers | Hi Alex Do you think there any teachers there at all?  . |
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#51 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 14:53 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Ralf wrote: | | lost_soul wrote: | | Really, Molly, you're not tracking here. Admit it. |
Hi Alex,
Charlie Brown believed Lucy, so we should all trust Molly. |
I trust my eyes, at least. Let's see just who sent this thread spinning off-topic, shall we?
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#53 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 15:23 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Ralf wrote: | | Quote: | | Today, I sent the youtube link to all our 57 native English teachers. Only three of them found her slightly difficult to understand. |
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Do tell us how that is off-topic, Ralf? |
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#55 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 15:35 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Quote: | | Taking into consideration the fact that Molly's account of her origin has been changed by her several times, |
Really? Has it? Do give me a list of those changes, will you? |
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#56 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 17:36 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| lost_soul wrote: | | have second thoughts about what she says. | Hi Alex I'm still not convinced that Molly is a "she". Personally, I don't trust much of what Molly says. For some reason The Boy Who Cried Wolf frequently comes to mind when I read Molly's posts.  |
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#57 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 17:52 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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Hi,
I've not got (gotten wow!) involved in any Molly correspondence to date and in the interests of impartiality I don't propose to start mollycoddling now. My question is: Will anyone ever be mollified on these forums or has that already happened?
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Communicating with you? |
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#58 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 18:22 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Molly wrote: | | Dear, poor, Mr P... . The "link" was a link to the AVI which I stored in our intranet. For teachers, we no longer allow any direct access to You Tube in our academy. Next move? Tick-tock. Why do you bother, Mr P. Way ahead of you, as I said earlier. |
| Molly wrote: | Do you think I e-mailed 77 teachers by individual e-mail? Or maybe we have a function called "e-teachers", eh? Hm. Yes, most did report back immediately because "school's out" and teachers are expected to be at home doing reports. They are getting paid to be available.
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If the 77+ teachers are at home, why would you need to worry about "direct access" to Youtube in the workplace?
You would simply send them the weblink.
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#59 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 20:11 pm What 'variant of English' would you learn? |
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| Quote: | | If the 77+ teachers are at home, why would you need to worry about "direct access" to Youtube in the workplace? |
Because we own the notebooks they use. Next? |
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#60 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 23:16 pm The Curious Incident of the 77+ teachers in the morning-time |
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| Molly wrote: | | Quote: | If the 77+ teachers are at home, why would you need to worry about "direct access" to Youtube in the workplace?
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Because we own the notebooks they use.
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I am enchanted by the picture of 77 separate yet synchronised ESL teachers, hunched over their notebooks on a hot June morning in a small town somewhere in Spain – reading their email from Molly as one – downloading their 32MB video clip as one – perfectly comprehending the speaker as one – replying to Molly (who asks such wonderful questions) as one – smiling indulgently to themselves as they log off the network and wondering (as one) why Molly inconveniently posted the file to the intranet instead of simply putting it on a shared drive –
But did you say 77 teachers?
| Molly wrote: | I can give a concrete context, but can mention no names, if that's OK. Here in Spain, I help out as an administrator in a language academy. Around 60% of the teaching staff are nonnative English speakers. All have a teaching certficate, but the academy only allows that 60% to teach up to the Intermediate Level.
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That can't be right. You said there were 20 non-native teachers, earlier. But if there are 57 native speakers, and 60% of the teaching staff are non-native, that makes:
57 native teachers + 85.5 (poor chap) non-native teachers = 142.5 teachers in total.
So what did the other 65.5 non-native teachers say, when you sent them the link?
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