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| "By" means something like "near". It doesn't have to mean "at the side of". For example, to stand at the side of a window, you'd have to be inside the wall right next to the window. "By the window" means very near the window, but it doesn't mean at the side of it. A better explanation of "by" would be "very near and/or next to". |
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| #3 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 13:57 pm by vs. beside |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| "By" means something like "near". It doesn't have to mean "at the side of". For example, to stand at the side of a window, you'd have to be inside the wall right next to the window. "By the window" means very near the window, but it doesn't mean at the side of it. A better explanation of "by" would be "very near and/or next to". |
How about here?
I love being beside the sea
I love being by the sea |
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| #4 (permalink) Wed Jun 25, 2008 18:27 pm by vs. beside |
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Beside sounds "closer" to the sea than "by." It could just come down to personal interpretation.
The little cottage you stay at may be "by" the sea but the chair you sit in on the beach while you read is "beside" the sea? Like I said, maybe personal interpretation. |
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| #5 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:18 am by vs. beside |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| "By" means something like "near". It doesn't have to mean "at the side of". For example, to stand at the side of a window, you'd have to be inside the wall right next to the window. "By the window" means very near the window, but it doesn't mean at the side of it. A better explanation of "by" would be "very near and/or next to". |
Thank you, Jamie. May I ask a question, then?
1) Who's the handsome guy sitting beside Sally?
2) Who's the handsome guy sitting by Sally?
In this case, in my opinion, 2) seems more inclusive than 1) : The handsome guy can be sitting beside/in front of/behind etc. Sally. 1), however, seems that it must be understood the handsome guy IS sitting at the side of Sally. What do you think about my guess?
Thank you in advance,
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| #6 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:35 am by vs. beside |
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| In those sentences, "by" and "beside" mean essentially the same thing. |
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| #7 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:59 am by vs. beside |
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I see, thank you Jamie! I've been obsessed with the concept that 'by' has a meaning of 'near'.
By the way, what's the meaning of '(K)' in your nickname? I'm just curious. (You don't have to answer if you don't want to!) |
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