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Craving respect #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:07 am   Craving respect
 

Regarding language use, whose respect do you crave?

For example, a few weeks ago, I wrote the word "fora", as the plural for "forum", and a couple of native-speaking members here took me to task over it, and a couple more even made fun of me for using it. They said I should use "forums". Well, I'm still using "fora", so I guess I'm not so interested in gaining the respect, linguistically and socially, of said members. But, did I make the right choice? Should I have taken on the usage of said members? Should I have tried to to gain their respect?

And should someone who feels comfortable using a double-negative, or is happy using "if I have chance" in the spoken form - to take just two examples - give up their way of speaking, of using the language, and instead try to gain the respect of those who prescribe against such forms? Should someone who never uses "ain't", as another example, suddenly begin using it when coming into contact with those who do use it?

So, regarding language use, do you try or wish to gain the respect of a certain sector of society? If so, which sector and why?
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Craving respect #2 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 13:39 pm   Craving respect
 

Molly, I don't think language use is the reason you're not gaining respect.
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Craving respect #3 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 14:19 pm   Craving respect
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
Molly, I don't think language use is the reason you're not gaining respect.


Do you imagine I crave such? What's your answer to the topic questions?

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So, regarding language use, do you try or wish to gain the respect of a certain sector of society? If so, which sector and why?
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Craving respect #4 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 14:36 pm   Craving respect
 

Molly wrote:
Do you imagine I crave such?

There's that "such" again.
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Craving respect #5 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 14:55 pm   Craving respect
 

Hey,

What is wrong with the 'such' part?

Ontopic: In my opinion, language is a no-competition field, hence no 'respect gaining' is needed. On the other hand, there are undoubtfully great linguists, who have dedicated their lives to examine languages, whose judgement is hard to refute. Then again, the Average is way underneath the latter in terms of skill, and therefore cannot possibly 'compete' with them.

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Craving respect #6 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:18 pm   Craving respect
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
There's that "such" again.


Respect, dude. Cool
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Craving respect #7 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:20 pm   Craving respect
 

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language is a no-competition field


?? How so? Can you please explain?
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Craving respect #8 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:22 pm   Craving respect
 

we occasionally disagree, but it's never personal (IMO, anyway), and I respect the doggedness you display in defending your stances.
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Craving respect #9 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:24 pm   Craving respect
 

...even though you're wrong most of the time.

hehe Wink
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Craving respect #10 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:35 pm   Craving respect
 

SkiIucK wrote:
What is wrong with the 'such' part?



It's distinctively (and usefully) idiolectal, rather than "wrong".

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Craving respect #11 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:58 am   Craving respect
 

Hi,

Thanks, MrPedantic.

To me, people's skills in language are irrelevant. As long as we understand each other, all is good. I don't like mocking at someone's illiteracy, stupidity of statement or whatever.

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Craving respect #12 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:40 am   Craving respect
 

Quote:
As long as we understand each other, all is good.


If only. Mr P will tell you that you'll never get a quality job with that attitude.
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Craving respect #13 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:59 am   Craving respect
 

Well, that is my thesis, and hardly can it alter.
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Craving respect #14 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 13:01 pm   Craving respect
 

SkiIucK wrote:
Well, that is my thesis, and hardly can it alter.


Nor should you.

BTW, did Jamie answer your "What is wrong with the 'such' part?" question?
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Craving Respect #15 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 14:33 pm   Craving Respect
 

Hi Molly,

The main reason why people don't pay you respect may be found in your obvious desire to incite people to act up on you. In this thread you had the majority of contributions (10/19), but not a single one pertinent to the topic.

How do you expect us to respect you?

And why do you choose language forums for your guerrilla war dance?
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