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#2 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 15:46 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Eslkorea I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:27 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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| Please listen to this audio file Lesson 16, Phonetics u. |
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Slava Programmer and Co-founder

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#4 (permalink) Thu Jul 03, 2008 14:26 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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| HELLO SLAVA - PROGRAMMER AND CO-FOUNDER of this web site...THANKS A LOT...the AUDIO 16 was the only one that was lost... the exercises are complete now..They are very useful. By the way this web site is wonderful... Congratulations for such wonderful place to come and test our abilities in English! Greetings SUZANA/BRAZIL |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Jul 03, 2008 14:29 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Dear Suzylima, Many thanks for your warm words. Slava |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 17:34 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Hi Slava
There has obviously been a lot of time and effort put into the creation of all those audio tapes. An admirable effort!
As with the tests, however, it seems that some third-party editing and input would have been beneficial. For example, I'm curious as to why the word 'wool' was rhymed with 'fool' and 'pool' in that audio tape. As far as I know, 'wool' rhymes with 'full' and 'pull' in both BE and AmE. In other words, the 'oo' in the word 'wool' is pronounced the same way the 'oo' in the word 'good' is pronounced. . |
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#7 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:28 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Hi Amy,
As for the pronunciation of 'wool', it's probably me who needs to take the blame here. In Dublin you'd pronounce it to rhyme with 'full' as well, but maybe with a slightly longer /u˙/ sound. So I might have committed the sin of hyper-correctness, if you like
Anyway, would you say it sounds very odd? I was surprised to find myself struggling with words like 'cool' and 'school'. In the first take we did it sounded more like [kɪɘl] and [skɪɘl]. So a sentence like 'too cool for school' might sound like /tɪ kɪɘl fɘR skɪɘl/ in my neck of the woods. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 21:38 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Hi Ralf,
Where is the transcript for this lesson?  _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 22:33 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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| I wish I could be recording learner tapes for taxi passangers in Dublin |
That YouTube clip is hilarious!
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#13 (permalink) Sat Jul 05, 2008 0:11 am Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Tell me, Torsten, how would you "officially" advise someone to pronounce the words "haben gehabt" in German? Would you recommend either "hen ket" or "han ket" as the usual pronunciation, for example? What about the word "wie"? Would you recommend pronouncing that as "wia" (i.e. with two syllables)? If not, why not? If so, would you go to the trouble of qualifying your advice? . |
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#14 (permalink) Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:49 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Hi Torsten, hi Amy,
I think I'd sound less like a dyed-in-wool country fool if I read something I've written myself, so here's a suggestion for a new transcript. I could record it tomorrow no bother.
Session 16
Session16 is another phonetics session. This time we are practicing the short /u/ sound and the long /u:/ sound.
First listen to the short /u/
look wood stood cook good hood foot took put could hook full
The good cook stood in the wood. Look, he put his foot on a book! He took a good look and he could see a hook. Could he put is food on the hook? Or took a woman his good hood? No, she put the book on his foot. And now, have a good look! The wood is full of crooked wood. But why took the cook this book to the wood? That's not understood.
And now listen to the long /u:/
you blue who cool school soon moon pool mood too poor fool boot
You are at school, and school is cool.
Too soon, you are too cool for school. Fools in a good mood go to school. They cool their boots in the pool. Once in a blue moon, your mood is poor. Soon the moon will fool you. You see the moon when you feel blue, too. Who is cool and in the pool? It can only be a fool.
Now, let's compare both sounds:
pull — pool could — cool foot — food would — who look — blue full — fool took — tool butcher — boot
Pull the fool out of the pool. Could he cool his foot? Put the book in the good room. Two butchers have full pools. Who took my good shoes? A fool pulled the tool through the wool. This is too good to be true.
Good. I hope you could understand me too. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#15 (permalink) Mon Jul 07, 2008 18:21 pm Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 |
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Hi there,
Please note that the transcript to the audio file has changed. If you read my last entry in this thread, you have the correct transcript. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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