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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 14:28 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

HELLO GUYS

I need the AUDIO - Session 16 - Phonetics u
Session16 is another phonetics session. This time we are practising the short /u/ sound and the long /u:/ sound. First listen to the short /u/: look wood stood cook good hood foot took put could hook Look at this cook! He stood in the wood! Look, this book is good! Put the foot on the hood! Could he look at this good book? Is the woman a good cook? Could she put the book on the hook? Why took the cook this good book to the wood? This hook is good — it's made of wood. And now listen to the long /u:/ You who cool school soon moon pool mood too poor fool You are at school and school is cool.

It must be at ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 but it is NOT there...

IT IS NOT IN THE FORUM .. the other AUDIOS are there and all are ok but this AUDIO is not there..and I need it..

CAN YOU SEND ME IT PLEASE?

HUGS AND THANKS IN ADVANCE

SUZANA/BRAZIL
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #2 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 15:46 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

hey! i need it to..hope someone can help Smile
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #3 (permalink) Tue Jul 01, 2008 14:27 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Please listen to this audio file Lesson 16, Phonetics u.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #4 (permalink) Thu Jul 03, 2008 14:26 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

HELLO SLAVA - PROGRAMMER AND CO-FOUNDER of this web site...THANKS A LOT...the AUDIO 16 was the only one that was lost... the exercises are complete now..They are very useful. By the way this web site is wonderful... Congratulations for such wonderful place to come and test our abilities in English! Greetings SUZANA/BRAZIL
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #5 (permalink) Thu Jul 03, 2008 14:29 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Dear Suzylima,
Many thanks for your warm words.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #6 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 17:34 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Slava

There has obviously been a lot of time and effort put into the creation of all those audio tapes. An admirable effort!

As with the tests, however, it seems that some third-party editing and input would have been beneficial. For example, I'm curious as to why the word 'wool' was rhymed with 'fool' and 'pool' in that audio tape. As far as I know, 'wool' rhymes with 'full' and 'pull' in both BE and AmE. In other words, the 'oo' in the word 'wool' is pronounced the same way the 'oo' in the word 'good' is pronounced.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #7 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:28 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Amy,

As for the pronunciation of 'wool', it's probably me who needs to take the blame here. In Dublin you'd pronounce it to rhyme with 'full' as well, but maybe with a slightly longer /u˙/ sound. So I might have committed the sin of hyper-correctness, if you like Embarassed

Anyway, would you say it sounds very odd? I was surprised to find myself struggling with words like 'cool' and 'school'. In the first take we did it sounded more like [kɪɘl] and [skɪɘl]. So a sentence like 'too cool for school' might sound like /tɪ kɪɘl fɘR skɪɘl/ in my neck of the woods.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #8 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 20:33 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Ralf

Thanks for clearing up that mystery for me. So that was you on the tape? If so, you have a nice voice Very Happy (and I also like the way your pronounce your final Rs). Wink But, to answer your question, yes, that pronunciation of 'wool' does sound very odd to my ear. For me, there is literally no difference whatsoever between the the pronunciation of the '-ool' in 'wool' and the '-ull' in 'pull' -- and I would never attempt to pull the wool over your eyes on this. Pull and wool rhyme perfectly in my neck of the woods.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #9 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 21:35 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Amy

Thank you for your comment! I wish I could be recording learner tapes for taxi passangers in Dublin, but well, fate's a fickle beast Razz
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #10 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 21:38 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Ralf,

Where is the transcript for this lesson? Smile
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #11 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 22:11 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Torsten wrote:
Hi Ralf,

Where is the transcript for this lesson? Smile

Things can look so trivial when you write them down, can't they? Confused

It occurs to me that when Irish musicians give voice to their music these days, they do it with an American accent. Listen to aul' Dub head Steven Duffy, for example.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #12 (permalink) Fri Jul 04, 2008 22:33 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Ralf wrote:
I wish I could be recording learner tapes for taxi passangers in Dublin
That YouTube clip is hilarious!
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #13 (permalink) Sat Jul 05, 2008 0:11 am   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Tell me, Torsten, how would you "officially" advise someone to pronounce the words "haben gehabt" in German? Would you recommend either "hen ket" or "han ket" as the usual pronunciation, for example? What about the word "wie"? Would you recommend pronouncing that as "wia" (i.e. with two syllables)? If not, why not?
If so, would you go to the trouble of qualifying your advice?
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #14 (permalink) Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:49 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi Torsten, hi Amy,

I think I'd sound less like a dyed-in-wool country fool if I read something I've written myself, so here's a suggestion for a new transcript. I could record it tomorrow no bother.

Session 16

Session16 is another phonetics session. This time we are practicing the short /u/ sound and the long /u:/ sound.

First listen to the short /u/

look
wood
stood
cook
good
hood
foot
took
put
could
hook
full

The good cook stood in the wood.
Look, he put his foot on a book!
He took a good look and he could see a hook.
Could he put is food on the hook?
Or took a woman his good hood?
No, she put the book on his foot.
And now, have a good look!
The wood is full of crooked wood.
But why took the cook this book to the wood?
That's not understood.

And now listen to the long /u:/

you
blue
who
cool
school
soon
moon
pool
mood
too
poor
fool
boot

You are at school, and school is cool.

Too soon, you are too cool for school.
Fools in a good mood go to school.
They cool their boots in the pool.
Once in a blue moon, your mood is poor.
Soon the moon will fool you.
You see the moon when you feel blue, too.
Who is cool and in the pool?
It can only be a fool.

Now, let's compare both sounds:

pull — pool
could — cool
foot — food
would — who
look — blue
full — fool
took — tool
butcher — boot

Pull the fool out of the pool.
Could he cool his foot?
Put the book in the good room.
Two butchers have full pools.
Who took my good shoes?
A fool pulled the tool through the wool.
This is too good to be true.

Good. I hope you could understand me too.
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Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3 #15 (permalink) Mon Jul 07, 2008 18:21 pm   Help with the audio session 16 - ESL Lesson Plans / Download audio course mp3
 

Hi there,

Please note that the transcript to the audio file has changed. If you read my last entry in this thread, you have the correct transcript.
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