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...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from... #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 15:59 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from...
 

Hi,

Please take a look at these sentences from Monstrous Regiment (Terry Pratchett).

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And then there was the young male walk to master. At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from the shoulders down. You have to try to occupy a lot of space, she thought. It makes you look bigger, like a tomcat fluffing his tail.

Can we use swing instead of swung?

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...At least women swung only their hips.Young men swung everything, from... #2 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 23:10 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips.Young men swung everything, from...
 

It would make grammatical sense to say swing instead of swung, but this would change the sentence to present tense instead of past tense Smile

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...At least women swung only their hips.Young men swung everything, from... #3 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 23:14 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips.Young men swung everything, from...
 

I'm not familiar with the book; but it seems to me that "swing" would present the statement as a general truth, inside and outside the story.

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...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from... #4 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 23:40 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from...
 

Thanks.

So the reason swung is used here is because the whole story is written in past tense? What's the logic behind it? I mean, if the statement remains a general truth wouldn't it be more correct to keep it in the present? Or is it because the writer wanted to put more stress?
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...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from... #5 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 23:53 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from...
 

I think the past tense makes it clearer that these are a particular character's thoughts, rather than a general truth (e.g. expressed in the voice of the author).

Cf.

1. "Young men swing everything!"

– her thought.

2. Young men swung everything, she thought.

– a reported version of #1.

(In a piece of fiction, it's not necessary to repeat "she thought", etc.: in this passage, for instance, the context tells us that it's her thoughts.)

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...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from... #6 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 23:58 pm   ...At least women swung only their hips. Young men swung everything, from...
 

Ahh, now I get it. Thanks MrP Very Happy
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