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#2 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 18:11 pm Slips |
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Hi Ralf
Here are a few of the slips I remember hearing in Germany (native English speaker influenced by German):
- On the phone: "Here is Marcia" (instead of "This is Marcia.") - On a hot, sunny day: "Let's go stand in the shadow." (instead of "... in the shade") - Not feeling well: "Do you have anything against a headache" (instead of "...for a headache") - Bread preference: "I only eat full corn bread" (instead of "...whole grain bread") - Apartment rental: "Is there a caution?" (instead of "... security deposit")
Some people seem to be far more susceptible to this sort of thing than others. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 19:40 pm Slips |
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Here is another one I sometimes hear from native speakers who have lived in Germany for a while: You can call me on my handy.
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#4 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:15 pm Slips |
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| Second language interference is similar, only that speakers import features of a learned language to their native language. |
That seems like a rather odd sentence. Is the use of "only that" correct there? |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:27 pm Slips |
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See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! What the heck is this?!
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#6 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 22:42 pm Slips |
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| Ralf wrote: |
A common problem for language learners is language transfer -- speakers apply knowledge from their native language to a second language. Second language interference is similar, only that speakers import features of a learned language to their native language.
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There is also "attractive foreign colleague interference", where the native speaker willingly imports engaging abusage.
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#7 (permalink) Thu Jun 26, 2008 23:55 pm Slips |
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| prezbucky wrote: |
| See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! What the heck is this?! |
Were you thinking of an English slip or a German Slip, Tom? lol _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#8 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 0:04 am Slips |
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| See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! What the heck is this?! |
I thought it might be about Ralf's sexual conquests - as he might call them. Mind, that would have made for a short thread, wouldn't it? :lol: |
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#9 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:59 am Slips |
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| Molly wrote: |
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| See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! What the heck is this?! |
I thought it might be about Ralf's sexual conquests - as he might call them. Mind, that would have made for a short thread, wouldn't it? :lol: |
Thanks to Molly I've learned and fully understood this concept through his/her example.
Molly, what's the fun in being trite? _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#10 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:23 am Slips |
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| Molly, what's the fun in being trite? |
What's the fun in being Ralf, Ralf? :P |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:31 am Slips |
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| Ralf wrote: |
| Molly wrote: |
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| See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! What the heck is this?! |
I thought it might be about Ralf's sexual conquests - as he might call them. Mind, that would have made for a short thread, wouldn't it? :lol: |
Thanks to Molly I've learned and fully understood this concept through his/her example.
Molly, what's the fun in being trite? |
Do show us which part of "adding content to the discussion" this posts brings, will you?
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| See, I thought that this thread was going to be about the garments ladies wear underneath skirts! |
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It's unbelievable that you don't also see many of your own posts as trolling. Or maybe you can't admit to trolling, Ralf. Living in denial? |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:36 am Slips |
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Back to language transfer.
Amy feels that language transfer (from Spanish to English) is happening here:
Tom: Can you come to the meeting tomorrow?
Tim: If I have/get chance, I'll pop in for a sec.
What's your verdict, Ralf?
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Also, just read about "push and pull transfer"and be after V-ing - regarding English, Irish-English and Gaelic. Interesting. Can you give us your take on be after V-ing and language transfer? |
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#13 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:07 am Slips |
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Do show us which part of "adding content to the discussion" this posts brings, will you?
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Adding content like your contributions?
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| I thought it might be about Ralf's sexual conquests - as he might call them. Mind, that would have made for a short thread, wouldn't it? |
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#14 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:35 am Slips |
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Here's another - this time from Polish speakers of English:
Eng: My sister and I went to the beach yesterday.
Polish speaker of English: We were at the beach with my sister yesterday.
Apparently that transfer happens even with rather excellent Polish speakers of English. |
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#15 (permalink) Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:19 am Slips |
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| Could this be a case of second language interference? |
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Back to language transfer.
Amy feels that language transfer (from Spanish to English) is happening here: |
In view of my original words, I'd say your statement can be categorically categorized as arrogantly "unmodalised" and intentionally misleading, "Molly". Your statement contains an obvious error. . . .
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Common types of troll messages:
* off topic messages * inflammatory messages * messages containing an obvious flaw or error |
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