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Thu Jul 10, 2008 0:35 am Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

Did you miss this?

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Q: When you ask if something is correct, by what standard do you expect an answer, if not standard English?

A: By the "standard" you think it comes from.

Very well; provide a sample reply to your question, where a respondent answers in the terms you suggest.

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Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:54 am Possessing "correct"?

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Very well; provide a sample reply to your question, where a respondent answers in the terms you suggest.

As an sample, easy. "Actually, neither of the given choices are correct in X standard English, but A is correct in X variant/variety of English".

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 0:34 am Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

As an sample, easy. "Actually, neither of the given choices are correct in X standard English, but A is correct in X variant/variety of English".

In that case, you could have saved yourself a great deal of trouble, and simply accepted my original answer:

MrP, at English Page, wrote:

Beyond standard English, you might hear either of the original sentences in a regional form of BrE. You might hear the first (with "was") in East London, for instance; the second (with "were") in e.g. Yorkshire.

Though I'm a little puzzled as to why, if you already had an answer to your own "easy" question, you decided to ask it in the first place.

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:16 am Possessing "correct"?

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In that case, you could have saved yourself a great deal of trouble, and simply accepted my original answer:

Where did I say I didn't accept it?

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Though I'm a little puzzled as to why, if you already had an answer to your own "easy" question, you decided to ask it in the first place.

Which question are you referring to?

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:18 am Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

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Though I'm a little puzzled as to why, if you already had an answer to your own "easy" question, you decided to ask it in the first place.

Which question are you referring to?

This one, of course:

Molly wrote:

Which is correct and why?

Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:22 am Possessing "correct"?

MrPedantic wrote:

This one, of course:

Molly wrote:

Which is correct and why?

Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help

MrP

Where did I show I had an answer to that question?

And, where did I say I didn't accept your reply?

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:12 am Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

MrPedantic wrote:

This one, of course:

Molly wrote:

Which is correct and why?

Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help

MrP

Where did I show I had an answer to that question?

Put yourself in the position of a non-native speaker, asking your original question. Then reread your model answer. Then look for the sentences on Google. Then put 2 and 2 together.

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Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:21 am Possessing "correct"?

As you often say "I'll pass, thanks".

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Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:31 am Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

Where did I show I had an answer to that question?

Not to mention:

Molly wrote:

MrPedantic wrote:

Molly wrote:

Do these sound like examples from publications, political communication, or government broadcasting?

Them looking after the kids was a great help.
Them looking after the kids were a great help.

You have forgotten that at English Page you post in the guise of a non-native speaker.

So why should Rusty and Pete assume that you know those examples aren't standard English?

MrP

OK.

Think you slipped up there.

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Sat Jul 12, 2008 16:39 pm Possessing "correct"?

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Think you slipped up there.

Easy to slip round here with all the mess you, Mr P, leave behind.

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Sun Jul 13, 2008 23:36 pm Possessing "correct"?

Molly wrote:

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Think you slipped up there.

Easy to slip round here with all the mess you, Mr P, leave behind.

Is the metaphor cloacal, out of interest?

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