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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"



 
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:40 am  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Hi

Are all the following sentences correct and natural?

Quote:
1- You can keep it with you.
2- You can keep it with yourself.

3- I decided to keep the money with me.
4- I decided to keep the money with myself.

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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:29 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

#1 & #4 sounds more natural to me.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:37 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

I think 2- is wrong.
There is an expression "keep it to yourself" which means you know some information but don't tell anyone.

so 2- could be seen to mean that and easily confused, as the phrases you are using suggest you are talking about keeping physical objects

also i PERSONALLY think 3- is more natural than 4-
refering to yourself as "myself" is not very common in natural spoken English (although definitely not unheard of)

maybe there is an example where it could be used...
"what would you have done in that situation?"
"I'd have told the police myself"

this an example of how it can be used
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Fri Jul 04, 2008 18:57 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Hi Tom

I agree with Ben.
1 and 3 sound natural to me; 2 and 4 don't.

Sentences 2 and 4 would sound more natural without the word 'with'. However, the meanings would then be different from sentences 1 and 3.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Fri Jul 04, 2008 19:12 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Hi, Amy

Wouldn't it be more natural to say "you can keep it" (like I don't need your measely car, you can keep it) ?
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:52 am  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Doesn't 'myself' give an emphasis on 'me'? Which goes along with 'I decided to' not so bad, IMO.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:49 am  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Hi all,

Can I say it this way?

Quote:
You can keep it within yourself.

Does that make sense?

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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:08 am  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Not really, no. It's grammatically correct, but 'within' has a sense of being deep inside, at least in that sentence.

To keep something within myself sort of implies I'm keeping something deep inside my body...If you're talking about the money from above, it would literally mean the money is inside your body.

This might work however, if you're some kind of smuggler... Smile

If you say it, be prepared for looks of puzzlement or laughter.

That being said, I recall a line from my childhood days in church.

"He lives, he lives, Christ Jesus lives today...you ask me how I know he lives, he lives, within my heart."

Here there's still that sense of deep inside, but here the idea works in a non-humorous way, as it implies that God is deep inside your heart, a good thing for a religious person.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 13:34 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

Oh, I wasn't referring to the money, but I got it. Thanks again!

P/S: I just realized your cat is drinking beer! He is so chubby I was totally distracted and didn't see he was drinking! Funny cat.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 14:42 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

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I'm enjoying that picture, too.

Skrej, are you and your cat by any chance from the same state as Dorothy and Toto?
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 16:42 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

You can keep money on you, i.e. about your person. Thus in reply to a request for a loan:

1. I'm sorry, I don't have any money on me.

Sometimes the phrase is accompanied by a light patting of the relevant parts of one's clothing (pockets, etc.).

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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 16:53 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

So does this mean "with" is somewhat incorrect but people still use it anyway, MrP?
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 16:58 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

On second thought, I think it is okay to use "with" in the above situation where a person is telling another person that he can keep the money. I think "on" would sound weird here.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sat Jul 05, 2008 19:39 pm  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

MrPedantic wrote:
You can keep money on you, i.e. about your person. Thus in reply to a request for a loan:

1. I'm sorry, I don't have any money on me.

Sometimes the phrase is accompanied by a light patting of the relevant parts of one's clothing (pockets, etc.).

MrP

siCantikManis wrote:
So does this mean "with" is somewhat incorrect but people still use it anyway, MrP?

You might also hear a variation of Mr. P's example as "I don't have any money with me"

siCantikManis wrote:
P/S: I just realized your cat is drinking beer! He is so chubby I was totally distracted and didn't see he was drinking! Funny cat.

Well, it's not actually my cat, but I suspect the cat's chubby because of all the beer he drinks. Probably should consider switching to lite beer, but the taste is crap.

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Skrej, are you and your cat by any chance from the same state as Dorothy and Toto?

Aye, my real cat and I share a town with Dorothy and Toto. No, seriously, they live
here across town. Since the official site has a remarkable lack of pictures, here's a random person's picture album of their visit.

Note one of the much lauded "Multi-Ethnic Dorthies" shown in the pictures. Further proof that political correctness can be taken to the point of silliness.
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"Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself" Sun Jul 06, 2008 0:10 am  "Keep it with you" vs "Keep it with yourself"
 

siCantikManis wrote:
So does this mean "with" is somewhat incorrect but people still use it anyway, MrP?

I wouldn't expect to hear:

1. I don't keep any money with me.

But I would expect to hear:

2. I don't keep it with me. [a picture of the beer-drinking cat]

3. I don't have any money with me.

4. I didn't bring any money with me.

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