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the law of proximity in grammar | Does the technical lexicon belong solely to standard varieties?
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Lacking communicative functionality? Wed Jul 09, 2008 23:45 pm  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

Jamie (K) wrote:
MrPedantic wrote:
Yankee wrote:
R U discrimin8ing agin? Wink
.

I can honestly say that I've never seen the least sign of discrimination in M's posts.

She tends to discriminate against Americans.

I suppose the lack of the one kind often leads to an abundance of the other.

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Lacking communicative functionality? Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:13 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

Molly wrote:
When you get (the) time to reply to my questions...

Which ones would you like me to reply to, in which thread?

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Lacking communicative functionality? Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:45 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

MrPedantic wrote:
Molly wrote:
When you get (the) time to reply to my questions...

Which ones would you like me to reply to, in which thread?

MrP

Let’s begin with these:

1. If you don't, we've live in two very different worlds, Mr P. (the question behind that one was “don’t you have an example of openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace?”)

2, What kinds of dialect-discrimination have you inflicted on others or been the victim of? (that question was to All.)

3.

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I note by the way that her schoolfellows thought she discriminated against them, because she spoke "standard Japanese".

Not sure what your point is. Do you think they didn't discriminate against her?

4. Does it (openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace) happen in your country, MrP? (from this page: http://www.englishforums.com/English/LegitimisingDialectDiscrimination/ghhzm/post.htm)

5. Are you implying that situation (openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace) doesn't exist?

Note that those are all on-topic question whereas yours about laptops, etc. are not.
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Lacking communicative functionality? Fri Jul 11, 2008 0:11 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

1. Don’t you have an example of openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace?

— No.

2, What kinds of dialect-discrimination have you inflicted on others or been the victim of?

a) None.
b) None.

3. Not sure what your point is. Do you think they didn't discriminate against her?

— "Because of her dialect, everyone thought she mocked them because of their provincialism, but she did not." Central to the case (if the report is accurate) is a misunderstanding of the girl's attitude. That's quite different from "openly legitimised" dialect discrimination in the workplace.

4. Does it (openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace) happen in your country, MrP?

— It's not how ordinary companies work, these days. Of course, in very small companies, e.g. family businesses with two or three employees, people no doubt recruit (or decline to recruit) staff for all kinds of curious reasons.

5. Are you implying that situation (openly legitimised dialect discrimination in the workplace) doesn't exist?

— Implying it where?

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Note that those are all on-topic question whereas yours about laptops, etc. are not.

Since the questions about laptops exposed an engaging but entirely fictive claim on your part, you would naturally object to them.

For my part, I don't think I'll easily forget your depiction of 77+ synchronised ESL teachers at their Toshibas. It may not have been true; but it was certainly entertaining.

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Lacking communicative functionality? Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:25 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

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Implying it where?

By continually asking for examples?

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Since the questions about laptops exposed an engaging but entirely fictive claim on your part, you would naturally object to them.


So you don't feel that you destoyed a whole thread with such off-topic posts, right?

And what part do your references to laptops play in this thread?

http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic26485.html
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Lacking communicative functionality? Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:43 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

Molly wrote:
So you don't feel that you destoyed a whole thread with such off-topic posts, right?


If your original claim was on-topic, the process of demonstrating that your claim was absurd (yet entertaining) was also on-topic.

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Lacking communicative functionality? Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:50 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

MrPedantic wrote:
If your original claim was on-topic, the process of demonstrating that your claim was absurd (yet entertaining) was also on-topic.

MrP

Well let's hope the thread poster feels the same. Didn't see him joining in the "fun" much, did you?

BTW, did you ever answer my question about whether you understood Bettina Lüscher's accent or not? Maybe, among all the "fun" you missed replying.
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Lacking communicative functionality? Fri Jul 11, 2008 23:42 pm  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

Molly wrote:
BTW, did you ever answer my question about whether you understood Bettina Lüscher's accent or not? Maybe, among all the "fun" you missed replying.

I suppose I should be flattered that, with 77+ ESL teachers and the director of a "highly prestigious" language academy on 24/7 call, you are still so eager for me to answer your questions.

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Lacking communicative functionality? Sat Jul 12, 2008 0:32 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

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I suppose I should be flattered that, with 77+ ESL teachers and the director of a "highly prestigious" language academy on 24/7 call, you are still so eager for me to answer your questions.

I'm surprised you couldn't answer such a simple question.
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Lacking communicative functionality? Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:25 am  Lacking communicative functionality?
 

Molly wrote:
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I suppose I should be flattered that, with 77+ ESL teachers and the director of a "highly prestigious" language academy on 24/7 call, you are still so eager for me to answer your questions.

I'm surprised you couldn't answer such a simple question.

That won't work either, I'm afraid. As I say, I'm flattered, but...

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