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Mon Jul 14, 2008 0:41 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

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To present such an incident as proof of "dialect discrimination" borders on the absurd -- and that's putting it kindly.

I'll let Kathleen E. Miller know you feel that way. Can I give her your e-mail address?

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:19 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

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The person with the one of the strongest [accents] among [the] candidates was picked as winner of the game show.

And what's his job at the moment?

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:28 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

Molly wrote:

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The person with the one of the strongest [accents] among [the] candidates was picked as winner of the game show.

And what's his job at the moment?

Game show winner, at £100K pa.

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:36 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

MrPedantic wrote:

Molly wrote:

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The person with the one of the strongest [accents] among [the] candidates was picked as winner of the game show.

And what's his job at the moment?

Game show winner, at £100K pa.

MrP

Wrong. "Lee's job will involve the development and sale of digital display advertising screens and other associated items."

http://www.lastbroadcast.co.uk/tv/v/4989-lee-becomes-sir-alans-new-apprentice.html

How's much is your "accent" earning you, MrP?

And Claire Young? That "brassy nothern lass". What's she doing now?

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:42 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

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Prohibited grounds of discrimination also include language, accent, or dialect, except as language, accent, or dialect may interfere with legitimate requirements of education or employment.

http://www.mcmaster.ca/senate/hrgenrl/antidisc.htm

I'm getting a feeling that most people here feel it is only employers and HR managers who should decide what "legitimate requirements of employment" mean. Is that the case?

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:47 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

Can anyone here tell us more about "Vicarious Liability"?

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Vicarious Liability

Vicarious liability is an employer’s legal responsibility for discrimination and harassment which occurs in the workplace or in connection with a person’s employment. The employer is legally responsible unless it can be shown that ‘reasonable steps’ have been made to reduce this liability.

http://equalitydiversityservices.co.uk/jargon-buster/

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Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:52 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

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but "openly legitimised" turns it into a fairytale.

I've also heard a lot of fairytales which involve HR managers and bosses explaining why a certain candidate is not suitable for a certain position. Heard those, Mr P?

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 0:17 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

Molly wrote:

"Lee's job will involve the development and sale of digital display advertising screens and other associated items."

That's show business.

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Tue Jul 15, 2008 0:37 am Legitimising dialect discrimination

MrPedantic wrote:

That's show business.

MrP

Let's see how long he lasts and how good at the job he is.

Love to know what's behind your "point" here?

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Sun Jul 20, 2008 18:13 pm Legitimising dialect discrimination

Interesting vid. http://video.filestube.com/video,5e58ab8d2fad4f7c03e9.html

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Mon Jul 21, 2008 22:14 pm Legitimising dialect discrimination

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they would pronounce "five-dollar commitment" as [fa da mɪ], which virtually no one in the US would understand.

Wow, absolutely unintelligible; it takes me ages to figure it out, and maybe won't forever by myself.

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