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correct use AM/PM or am/pm | Expressions "by my self" and "on my own".
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Usage of past perfect Mon Jul 07, 2008 15:54 pm  Usage of past perfect
 

I want to narrate a story that happened yesterday. In that, I want to talk about an incident that happened the day before yesterday. And this incident is pretty long.

Ideally, I'd use simple past to narrate the story that happened yesterday and past perfect for the incident that happened the day before.

My question is, is it really necessary that I write the whole incident in past perfect?
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Usage of past perfect Mon Jul 07, 2008 16:38 pm  Usage of past perfect
 

Hi,

I wouldn't worry too much about this past perfect/past simple use unless you are actually relating two past incidents one with another within the same sentence/context and are using conjunctions such as 'after' or 'before' ( or their like) indicating that there is this relationship with other times in your sentences. Let me give an example of what I'm on about: Yesterday we visited the famous caves where prehistoric man lived. I went there two years ago but it didn't interest me very much on that occasion... That's fine but you could pop in the past perfect in those sentences for precision? but it does restrict your freedom to pursue your narrative: Yesterday we visited the famous where prehistoric man had lived. I went there two years ago( I had gone there two years before) but it( hadn't interested me much) on that occasion.

I hope you can see that this use of the past perfect can inhibit the flow of the narrative. In that case it's best to stick to past simple unless the two different times are, as it were, forced together by words indicating that you need to differentiate the time difference.

Hope that helps a little.

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Usage of past perfect Tue Jul 08, 2008 17:40 pm  Usage of past perfect
 

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Hope that helps a little.

That helped a lot, Alan.

John told Laura that he was very disappointed in her. He had every reason to be. Laura hadn't come to the office the day before. She had called in sick eventhough she was perfectly healthy. She had gone to a movie with her boyfriend. A friend of John's had seen her at the movies and told John about it.

Can I replace the above paragraph with the one below?

John told Laura that he was very disappointed in her. He had every reason to be. Laura hadn't come to the office the day before. She called in sick eventhough she was perfectly healthy. She went to a movie with her boyfriend. A friend of John's saw her at the movies and told John about it.
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Usage of past perfect Tue Jul 08, 2008 18:42 pm  Usage of past perfect
 

Hi,

Sounds fine - I think the first paragraph is a bit too 'grammatical' in terms of tenses but in the second paragraph the narrative flows much better.

Just one small point - I would prefer 'even though' as two words.

Keep up the good work.

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