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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."



 
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which one is correct? - Omitting it does harm the meaning of the sentence? | Meaning of a sentence.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:25 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Hi

Could you please tell me which of the following sentences is most natural and correct?

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I don't think 25 years ago they would call him by this name.

I don't think 25 years ago they would be calling him by this name.

I don't think 25 years ago they would have been calling him by this name.

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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 13:21 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Hi Tom,

I’d assume this option:

I don't think (that) 25 years ago they would have called him by this name..
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 14:02 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

IMO, "I don't think 25 years ago they would call him by this name." is the best and more or less different in meaning from "I don't think (that) 25 years ago they would have called him by this name."
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 15:25 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Hi Tom

I'd go for the third sentence.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 15:41 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Yankee wrote:
I'd go for the third sentence.
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Hi, Amy

If I want to say that 25 years ago they used to call him by his name, can I say it this way :25 years ago they would call him by his name ?
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 16:14 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Hi Alex

Theoretically, yes. That sentence would suggest to me that you are reminiscing about something that you know 'they' did habitually/repeatedly 25 years ago.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 16:21 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Hi, Amy

Thank you for your answer !
I understand that you looked down on sentence 1 because it does not have the same idea of reminiscing in it as my sentence, right ?
I mean, the speaker expressed his guess, but he/she was not reminiscing and that's why we should use would have been calling ?
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 16:37 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

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I'd say that's a good analysis, Alex. In addition, 'would do' is much more frequently used to talk about a future activity, so the use of 'would call' seems to conflict with '25 years ago' in Tom's first sentence.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sat Jul 12, 2008 22:32 pm  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

I think they have different meanings as:

1. I don't think 25 years ago they would call him by this name. = I think 25 years ago they wouldn't call him by this name. = They were not likely to call him by this name 25 years ago (although they could have called him by this name). Possibility (to call him by this name): 25%.

3. I don't think 25 years ago they would have been calling him by this name. = I think 25 years ago they wouldn't have been calling him by this name. = There was almost no reason for them to be calling him by this name 25 years ago (because he had a different name then). Possibility (to call him by this name): 0.01%.

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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:59 am  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Haihao wrote:
1. I don't think 25 years ago they would call him by this name. = I think 25 years ago they wouldn't call him by this name. = They were not likely to call him by this name 25 years ago (although they could have called him by this name). Possibility (to call him by this name): 25%.
Why the need to use "could have called" in your explanation? Why didn't you write "could call"? Wink

Haihao wrote:
3. I don't think 25 years ago they would have been calling him by this name. = I think 25 years ago they wouldn't have been calling him by this name. = There was almost no reason for them to be calling him by this name 25 years ago (because he had a different name then). Possibility (to call him by this name): 0.01%.

In both of the original sentences (1 + 3) the speaker voices an opinion the same way (I don't think), and in both sentences the speaker refers to 25 years ago (obviously the finished past). The use of the continuous form in sentence 3 adds duration (i.e. using would have been calling more strongly indicates multiple instances of 'calling him this' than using would have called.)

Sentence 1 could work if it were reworded a bit. You could insert an if clause thus:

1a. If it (i.e. today) were 25 years ago, I don't think they would call him by this name (now).

Thus, sentence 1a presents '25 years ago' as being now hypothetically speaking.
This sentence thus refers to an unreal present.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:18 am  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Why the need to use "could have called" in your explanation? Why didn't you write "could call"?

Just the same feeling as you have in your "1a. If it (i.e. today) were 25 years ago, I don't think they would call him by this name (now)." to add or emphasize a hypothetical sense for the past tense in correspondence with the setting. No special significance.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:40 am  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

I think we must be sailing on two completely different ships today, Haihao.
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:18 am  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

my vote goes for "I don't think 25 years ago they would have called him by this name."
"I don't think 25 years ago they were calling him by this name." is also possible?
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Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..." Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:51 am  Expression: "I don't think 25 years ago they would ..."
 

Yankee wrote:
I think we must be sailing on two completely different ships today, Haihao.
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O I am sorry to hear you say that, Amy,Smile but I have to say it seems to me that my ship has been put in a wrong direction, by myself of course. Smile I am willing to go on your course now Smile and sorry for the rubbish.
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