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#2 (permalink) Sat Jul 12, 2008 21:48 pm Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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| #4 is the best, I think. |
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Haihao I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#3 (permalink) Sat Jul 12, 2008 22:18 pm Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Hi jctgf
First of all, just a small grammar note: your last two sentences need 'has' rather than 'have'.
Sentences 1 and 2 both work. . . I would not use sentences 3 or 4 -- I wouldn't combine the simple past tense with the present perfect that way.
I might use the present perfect this way, however:
- Has your assistant told you that I am not going/coming to your class today? - Has your assistant told you that I can't go/come to your class today? . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#4 (permalink) Sat Jul 12, 2008 22:25 pm Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Has your assistant told you that I can't go/come to your class today? -> I would like to reconfirm with you that I can't go/come to your class today. Has your assistant told you that I couldn't go/come to your class today? -> I told your assistant I couldn't go/come to your class today but I have changed my mind.
IMO & M2C. |
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#5 (permalink) Sat Jul 12, 2008 22:49 pm Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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. Where did you read about the person changing his/her mind, Haihao? :wink: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#6 (permalink) Sat Jul 12, 2008 22:59 pm Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Hi Amy,
I just suggested a possibility: If the speaker say it with 'couldn't' then he/she's likely changed his/her mind and can go now. If with 'can't' then the situation or his/her mind hasn't changed and he/she still can't go now. e.g.
Over the phone.
Student: Has your assistant told you that I couldn't go/come to your class today? Teacher: Oh, yes, she told me that. What's the story? Student: I was a kind of dizzy then but I am alright now. Actually I am calling to tell you I can come, sir. Teacher: Good! Then hit the road!
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#7 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 0:00 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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thanks a lot. of course it's ''has'' instead of ''have''. my fault. at to the verb, would you choose ''come'', ''go'' or any? thanks again. |
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#8 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 0:21 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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| Either would do. come = close on listener's side; go = on speaker's side. |
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#9 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 0:36 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Hi Haihao
Are you still discriminating against sentences 1 and 2? If so, why? _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#10 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 0:55 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Hi Amy,
Really a kick in the slats! :) I love it! :) No, Amy, I am not. I just felt I could only get a kick out of 3 and 4 and left 1 and 2 to stay where they were 'cause there would be no kick coming from them at all. :)
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#11 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:08 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Sorry, Haihao, but I'm afraid I'm having difficulty understanding what you're getting at.
I mean, it sounds as if you're saying that you intentionally told jctgf that sentence 4 was the best although you actually thought it was the worst. :? . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#12 (permalink) Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:36 am Wich one is the best sentence? Did your assistant tell you that I wasn't going... |
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Sorry from me too, Amy, but let me sort it out like this:
a. 1 and 2 would work perfectly without question as long as they stand alone without any context.
b. Observing the original 4 sentences are supposed to be involved in some coversation such as I suggested above, I found #4 would be the best of all. Of course #1 and #2 would do their good jobs as well doubtlessly but #4 has more or less a better sense to lay emphasis on the student's conduct that she once reported to the assistant that she couldn't come whereas #2 is more or less emphasized on the assistant's conduct that she told the teacher or not. Once again, I would say 1 & 2 are perfect but 4 isn't the worst (at least as good as #2) to me under the above condition (conversation).
Haihao
PS. I also have to say my opinion is very personal and the difference between 2 and 4 is ambiguous even to myself. |
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