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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'



 
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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #1 (permalink) Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:05 am   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

What sentence makes a contrast with (1)?

(1) He should be talking by now.

Do you think both work or that one works better than the other?

(2) a. He does not talk yet.
b. He has not talked yet.

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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #2 (permalink) Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:24 am   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Hi

a. could work

but here are some other options

he isnīt talking yet.
he hasnīt spoken (his first words) yet.
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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #3 (permalink) Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:58 am   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Hi,

To add a bit more '

a.
Quote:
He does not talk yet
- could refer to a baby not old enough to talk

b.
Quote:
He has not talked yet
- could refer to a lecturer/speaker/presenter who so far is not scheduled to talk until later.

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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #4 (permalink) Mon Jul 14, 2008 20:47 pm   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Alan, you're more erudite than I. I was picturing a supsect being interrogated by the police, not a lecturer!
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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #5 (permalink) Mon Jul 14, 2008 21:03 pm   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Barb, I'm with you.

I immediately thought of a torture/interrogation suspect who hasn't caved in yet. Smile

I watch too many spy thrillers, I guess...

As you can probably tell from the comments Seiichi, it depends on the context of the original statement. I'd prefer one over the other depending upon the situation being referred to.
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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #6 (permalink) Tue Jul 15, 2008 0:07 am   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Oh, I wasn't thinking torture - just when you have the one suspect in one room, and the other in the other, and you tell one that the other has started telling all, so if they want their side of the story out, they better tell you... I watch too much Law & Order, I guess.
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'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet' #7 (permalink) Tue Jul 15, 2008 17:44 pm   'He does not talk yet' vs 'He has not talked yet'
 

Barb_D wrote:
Alan, you're more erudite than I. I was picturing a supsect being interrogated by the police, not a lecturer!

You're not being interrogated by a the police. You're being interrogated by someone who is doing formal research into syntax and semantics and is trying to get native speaker judgments without resorting to paid informants. Usually linguistic researchers pay people or use graduate students to do what he is asking us to do.
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