Prestige forms

Molly · Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:20 am *Prestige forms*

Are the vernacular forms of English seen as a prestige forms by some speakers? If so, which forms and by whom?

Ralf · Mon Jul 14, 2008 14:09 pm *Prestige forms*

RP.
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Molly · Mon Jul 14, 2008 14:24 pm *Prestige forms*

Ralf · Mon Jul 14, 2008 14:46 pm *Prestige forms*

Indeed. A supra-regional vernacular spoken in the best circles of British society.
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Molly · Mon Jul 14, 2008 15:02 pm *Prestige forms*

Ralf · Mon Jul 14, 2008 15:06 pm *Prestige forms*

In Ireland it's the so called D4 accent. Dublin 4 is a rather swish area in the southeast of Dublin. I'm not from the area myself but have recently been accused of having acquired such an accent. I'd say I owe it to speaking to ESL students most of the time (D4 people pronounce their words more carefully, hence easier to understand for non-locals).
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Molly · Mon Jul 14, 2008 15:27 pm *Prestige forms*

Ralf · Mon Jul 14, 2008 15:28 pm *Prestige forms*

Stew.t. · Mon Jul 14, 2008 16:18 pm *Prestige forms*

In BrE the form "Oxford English" or BBC English, as spoken by people living, studying and working in those areas.

However now all people working for the BBC can not be seen as having the aforementioned BBC English.

Ralf your seen as "posh", shocker. Surprised

But then my family back in the one cow village think that of me. And some think I still have a Midlanding to Northern accent. All a question of perspective, innit

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Molly · Tue Jul 15, 2008 0:39 am *Prestige forms*

Ralf · Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:39 am *Prestige forms*

vernacular
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Molly · Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:23 am *Prestige forms*

Stew.t. · Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:39 am *Prestige forms*

Hi

Would you say that "Oxford English" is not at all defined geographically.
We could say all post -graduates of Oxford University speak this form, but that is pushing it a bit.

Maybe BBC could be said to be out of place.
However modern linguistics concerns itself with usage of this word not down to pure geography.

http//:www.alphadictionary.com/goodword/word/vernacular

Alan · Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:08 am *Prestige forms*

Hi Stew,

With the greatest respect (which often means I'm going to be rude but I'm not really) I think you're living in a 1930s world with reference to Oxford and BBC English. Having been at the former and worked for the latter I have to tell you that things have moved on. It all started when Oxford admitted oiks like me into the 'dreaming spires' back in the 1950s. And if you listen to so-called BBC English today coming over the airwaves it is, thank goodness, what people are speaking all over. Gone are the days when newsreaders wore dinner jackets to read the news on radio! Honest!

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Stew.t. · Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:14 am *Prestige forms*

Hi Alan

Not meaning to be so rude and with a pinch of respect, read my thread please.

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