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IMO, deleting threads only makes sense in case of spamming or insulting entries. I know that one could argue that Molly's entries revolve around the same 2-3 topics over and over again |
Does this link work for you, Ralf?
http://www.english-test.net/forum/search.php?mode=results |
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| #18 (permalink) Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:13 am Role of moderator |
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Just to come back to the question put by Charles:
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I am hoping and assuming that this was a jocular aside and said with tongue in cheek? Reassure me, Charles that this is so. For the record it is certainly not the role of the moderator to remove posts on a personal whim. That extreme action must be reserved for offensive spam and insulting material.
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| #19 (permalink) Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:16 am according to work or appearance |
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But who judges spam and insulting material? Is that left to the whim of an individual moderator, Alan?
Would you consider this insulting?
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| I think the poster in question was ill-advised to embark on a discussion of race with a white middle-aged male who enjoys pretending to be a young black female. |
It certainly looks like flaming to me. And when similar posts from the same poster to a particular member appear again and again, I'd call it sniping, wouldn't you? What's your policy on snipers? |
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Alan?
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Interesting questions? I am sure you would both be quick to give definitions of 'offensive' and 'insulting' had they been asked for by one of our posters.
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Interesting questions? I am sure you would both be quick to give definitions of 'offensive' and 'insulting' had they been asked for by one of our posters.
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Indeed, but in language use, many things are left open to interpretation. Like, how do you, as moderator, interpret this?
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Alan, for goodness sake! You're the co-founder of this place. You demand that we delete only insulting posts, and then refuse to define it!
I am not toying with you-- I want a definitive answer.
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Alan, for goodness sake! You're the co-founder of this place. You demand that we delete only insulting posts, and then refuse to define it!
I am not toying with you-- I want a definitive answer.
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I can understand that you do. Meanwhile, how do you, as moderator, interpret this?
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Is that insulting language? |
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These, from http://forums.delphiforums.com/dictionary, are interesting:
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Standards of Conduct: All visitors to the Dictionary Forum are expected to show courtesy and respect to others. Failure to do so it may result in the immediate termination of a visitor's right to use the service. We've listed some examples below of behavior that would be considered a violation of these Standards of Conduct:
Use of vulgar, abusive or defamatory statements, language, or images.
Actions which intentionally cause distress, embarrassment, unwanted attention, or other discomfort to another.
Posting of chain letters, advertisements, "spam" or other junk mail. |
Let's see if from now on, we can all follow those standards. I'll begin... |
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Hi Charles,
I am not refusing to define, I am not going to define something which you know as well as I do. Neither am I demanding that insulting posts be deleted as you've chosen to turn around what I actually said.. My original comment was that I hoped your question: What do you think, folks? Shall I just delete threads like this or leave them as a lesson and a warning? was not to be taken too seriously as I do not consider it is our function to remove posts that we personally don't like although they don't come under a category of 'insulting' and offensive' or if you like 'disgusting', 'revolting' 'abominable' or any similar description. And if you seriously think I am going to define any of these words for the benefit of another native speaker on this forum so that the meanings can be picked over, disputed and discussed ad nauseam, you are wholly mistaken.
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And my original, you'll note, was two questions. Very well, then-- I will delete nothing until Torsten gets back to me with a reasonable outline of what he wants deleted and what he wants preserved here.
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Well, that's another problem, Torsten seems a bit partial in his deletions. I don't think he's a good model. |
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So you're not prepared to be answerable to your "customers", right? |
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I don't use models, M-- as you know, the rules are different from site to site, and some are more reasonable than others. I try to do the job they want me to-- it is their property, after all.
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