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#2 (permalink) Sun Jul 20, 2008 15:57 pm new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Hello. Well, according to me, to wear one's head bare means you don't wear any hat. So the sentence above means to have something though not good enough is much better than to have nothing. _________________ On earth there is nothing great but man, in man there is nothing great but mind. |
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#3 (permalink) Sun Jul 20, 2008 15:58 pm new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Oh, a mistake: "any hats"! _________________ On earth there is nothing great but man, in man there is nothing great but mind. |
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#4 (permalink) Sun Jul 20, 2008 16:22 pm new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Oh, thanks Sophie.
BTW, I ought to have given the context. I was watching a movie of Marilyn Monroe, "The Prince and the Showgirl" when I heard this dialogue.
The showgirl was questioning the wisdom of the Prince inviting her to a late supper, because in her opinion the Prince should have been inviting a more experienced woman, and they were referring to the women as "hats".
Now that you've given me your view, I think you're right, "bare head" might most possibly refers to "no woman at all".
Wherever did I get the "empty-headed" thing, once again I got carried away in my imagination... :D
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#5 (permalink) Sun Jul 20, 2008 22:02 pm new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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I have heard people refer to old hat as an old person, so can I assume "bare head" here refers to an empty-headed person?
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That's interesting – I don't believe I've heard "old hat" for "old person" (or vice versa).
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#6 (permalink) Sun Jul 20, 2008 23:30 pm new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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| Me either. Old hat normally refers to "behind the times; old-fashioned" AFAIK. |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:45 am new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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But several times before I've heard it on the movie people refer to an "old hat" to a an older woman. :?
I said "old person" because I dislike it being referred to women. :evil:
I think maybe information offered by Haihao is more accurate, maybe it's an old person (incidentally) being old fashion. _________________ Thou shalt not use yours to make the whole world jealous. |
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#8 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:08 am new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Hi Cantik
I tend to agree with Sophie's idea.
I can imagine someone saying "Better an old hat than a bare/cold head" to mean basically the same thing as "It's better to have something (even if it's old/tattered/ugly/out-of-date/not exciting/etc.) than to have nothing at all."
Otherwise, if you say that something "is old hat", that has the meaning that Haihao mentioned. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#9 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:26 am new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Yes, Amy. I think so too.
But I am still confused of its reference to an older woman. I think it can in certain context/situation.
Has anyone seen the movie, anyway?(I love it! MM was mesmerizing!) _________________ Thou shalt not use yours to make the whole world jealous. |
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#10 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:35 am new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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#11 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:18 am new hat, old hat, bare head? |
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Yaas, I've always had a little flair for the stage. . |
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