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Hi All
Iam based in United Kingdom and presently struggling with debt. Tried everything. Looking for help.
Currently I have debt of 10000 will an IVA be suitable for me. |
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| #3 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 17:19 pm across vs over |
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Wow, that was a helpful post from treblerfromuk. NOT.
Daemon, you pretty much have to use over instead of across. Across won't work in that context.
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| #5 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 19:19 pm across vs over |
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Hi Daemon99,
The choice of 'across' or 'over' depends very much where the two protagonists are in relation to one another. On the face of it I would suggest both are all right. Perhaps 'across' might apply if they are both in the same building and 'over' might suggest different locations. But this is hairsplitting, I think.
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| #6 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 19:56 pm across vs over |
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Perhaps this is another difference between Br.E and Am.E, but to me, as a Yank:
'Send it across' to me sounds completely unnatural. Perhaps if it was a paper report, and the two people were within hearing distance of each other, with a peon to do the ferrying, then maybe.
In the instance of an email, I can accept nothing except 'over' (regardless of proximity between speakers).
I stand firmly by my assertion there's nothing to do with an email except send it 'over' ( i.e. over the internet).
Let me rectify that. I guess you could conceivably print out the contents of the email, then if they were sitting across the aisle from each other send it across via a third person.
Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here...
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| #7 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:06 pm across vs over |
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| In the instance of an email, I can accept nothing except 'over' (regardless of proximity between speakers). |
Not even in another person's variety of English? |
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| #8 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:12 pm across vs over |
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| Skrej wrote: |
| Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here... |
Methinks so too. :lol:
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| #9 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:15 pm across vs over |
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| Skrej wrote: |
| Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here... |
I would tend towards "over" too; if I said "across", I would have a sense of "conscious oddity" (perhaps involving that very useful peon from your earlier post). So I don't think it can be a BrE/AmE difference.
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| #10 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:16 pm across vs over |
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| Yankee wrote: |
| Skrej wrote: |
| Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here... |
Methinks so too. :lol: |
And yet:
1 SEND OVER 16
2 SEND ACROSS 1
The BNC.
Seems the first one is more popular. |
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| #11 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:23 pm across vs over |
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The Cambridge Dictionary does seem to support the idea that "send it across" (in reference to sending an email) would generally be an unusual usage rather than a common one:
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across:
from one side to the other of something with clear limits, such as an area of land, a road or river |
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=799&dict=CALD
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| #12 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:26 pm across vs over |
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| Yankee wrote: |
The Cambridge Dictionary does seem to support the idea that "send it across" (in reference to sending an email) would generally be rather unusual:
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across:
from one side to the other of something with clear limits, such as an area of land, a road or river |
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=799&dict=CALD
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But does the same dictionary suggest that "over" is usual in sending e-mail? |
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| #13 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:28 pm across vs over |
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Yes, for something such as email, I'd say so.
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| #14 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:29 pm across vs over |
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John: I've got all the details about the project in an email.
Jake: Send it across (to me)
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On reflection, I would say "Send them over" here (i.e. the "details").
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| #15 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 20:33 pm across vs over |
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| Molly wrote: |
| Yankee wrote: |
| Skrej wrote: |
| Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here... |
Methinks so too. :lol: |
And yet:
1 SEND OVER 16
2 SEND ACROSS 1
The BNC.
Seems the first one is more popular. |
Erm, didn't you just defend my position? :? Thanks, though. :P
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| Skrej wrote: |
| Methinks I'm smelling another Briticism vs. Americanism here... |
I would tend towards "over" too; if I said "across", I would have a sense of "conscious oddity" (perhaps involving that very useful peon from your earlier post). So I don't think it can be a BrE/AmE difference.
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What can I say, ya'll have had the language longer than we have, so I have to make a conscious effort to give ya'll the benefit of the doubt, despite our attempts to perfect it. :roll: Good relations, and all that.
I agree, peons are a must, you can never have enough. I try to buy them whenever they're on sale.
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