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"Girl" talk #1 (permalink) Mon Jul 21, 2008 14:49 pm   "Girl" talk
 

Would you say these the findings based, on Lakoff's work,, are still the same today?

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The following ten features have been identified as "Women's Language" (based on: Lakoff 1975):

1. Hedges, e.g. sort of; kind of, I guess;

2. (Super) polite forms e.g. would you please...I'd really appreciate it if:..,

3. Tag questions;

4. Speaking in italics, e.g. emphatic so and very, intonational language;

5. Empty adjectives, e.g. charming, sweet, adorable;

6. Hypercorrect grammar and pronunciation;

7. Lack of a sense of humour e.g. poor at telling jokes;

8. Direct quotations, e.g. "Hannah said that he said...";

9. Special vocabulary, e.g. specialised colour terms like 'Dove grey';

10. Question intonation in declarative contexts


http://www.putlearningfirst.com/language/23sexism/genderlect.html
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"Girl" talk. #2 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 13:59 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

Hi Molly, are her specimens native speakers of English only? Or do they include nonnatives too?
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"Girl" talk. #3 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 14:31 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

NinaZara wrote:
Hi Molly, are her specimens native speakers of English only? Or do they include nonnatives too?


Native, I imagine. Would you identify with any of those?
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"Girl" talk. #4 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 14:38 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

With the latter, perhaps a little.
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"Girl" talk. #5 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 15:05 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

NinaZara wrote:
With the latter, perhaps a little.


Me too, and tag questions.
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"Girl" talk. #6 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 15:11 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

I am surprised people associate it (tag questions) with women. I used to think that it's British, meaning I don't expect to hear it much from the American.
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"Girl" talk. #7 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 15:33 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

NinaZara wrote:
I am surprised people associate it (tag questions) with women. I used to think that it's British, meaning I don't expect to hear it much from the American.


I hear that tags are used less in the US, but I don't think tags are a particulary British thing.
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"Girl" talk. #8 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:05 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

Hi guys

I think it depends on the type of tag question.

In BrE it is typical to use many types of tags e.g. , donīt you?, isnt it?, should we? arenīt they?

I would say they are common place, but also present in AE.

But I would also say that there are common place regional tags that are used as a substitute for many different tag forms.

These range from; right, innit, to ay, eh.

The former occur frequently in BrE and the latter in AE respectively.

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"Girl" talk. #9 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:06 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

Molly wrote:
I hear that tags are used less in the US, but I don't think tags are a particulary British thing.


Perhaps it is the same with women and men? Smile

But I can see you use a lot of question tags in your posts (just an impression).

Also, I think feature number 1 doesn't belong to women either. I see a lot of celebrities, both male and female use them. I think it depends on the person's level of education, background, or occupation. Maybe people from the linguistic background think it will be too simple-minded to use such language. But to some, it is an easy way to say "things" (see?).

Oh by the way, I don't understand feature number 10. Would you be kind enough to explain it to me?
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"Girl" talk. #10 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:09 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

Hi Nina

I would back up your statement. I have many male friends that use "innit", as their substitute tag.

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"Girl" talk. #11 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:10 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

stew.t. wrote:
These range from; right, innit, to ay, eh.


I didn't know "eh" was a tag! Very Happy
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"Girl" talk. #12 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:11 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

stew.t. wrote:
Hi Nina

I would back up your statement. I have many male friends that use "innit", as their substitute tag.

cheers stew.t.


I notice you too, are very fond of it. Very Happy
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"Girl" talk. #13 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:12 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

Hi Nina


Easier said than done, eh?


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I notice you too, are very fond of it


Of course, it is the drifting Northerner/Midlander coming out of me.

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"Girl" talk. #14 (permalink) Wed Jul 23, 2008 16:34 pm   "Girl" talk.
 

According to Mr.Webster, "eh" is especially used in Canadian English, no wonder MM likes to use it!
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"Girl" talk. #15 (permalink) Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:37 am   "Girl" talk.
 

I think that list is pretty much accurate -- however, a language like English changes so much in 33 years (that study being published in, i believe, 1975) that you will oftentimes find men slipping in things from that list, with some frequency too.
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