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Who said what? Fri Jul 25, 2008 23:55 pm  Who said what?
 

Hi,

Are we ever going to get back to original comments/points/views/answers? Or are we going to continue with the monotonous she said/he said/you said/they said with big chunks of quotations from other posters?

It's all becoming hugely boring, don't you think? Let's have the occasional touch of original spark! Please!

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 0:29 am  Who said what?
 

I suppose it's like putting out nesting boxes and bird tables. You hope for something colourful and exotic, with interesting breeding habits; but all you get is a bunch of LBJs and the token squirrel.

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:00 am  Who said what?
 

Sorry but your analogy doesn't work for me. The only tenuous link might be with what birds do for their young -regurgitation. And that's what I'm on about.

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:36 am  Who said what?
 

The quotations can be quite long. I suppose though, where several people are involved in a thread, you sometimes have to quote, to show which point you are addressing.
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:48 am  Who said what?
 

Not really. I don't think so. Have you ever read through one these diatribes? I mean you and I are managing a sort of 'conversation' without any regurgitation and anyone reading this can follow the 'thread', can't they. Let's talk talk(I mean everyone) and not constantly quote quote. After all if I'm being driven up the wall by this procedure (which by the way has crept in all of a sudden after at least 3 - 4 years of non-regurgitation), what about our genuine posters?

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:59 am  Who said what?
 

An "Is your quotation really necessary?" approach would certainly keep threads shorter.

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 14:41 pm  Who said what?
 

If you respond to a post, and then the original poster decides to change his or her original post, it may be easier for others to understand what you're talking about if a quote of the original comment has been included with your response.

Of course, some people seem to have trouble using the quote function properly, and you end up not being able to identify what part of a post is a quote and what part isn't.

And of course, if you quoted someone and then a moderator decided to alter both the original post AND the quote, would there then be any point whatsoever to quoting?
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 14:43 pm  Who said what?
 

So what do you think about my comment?

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 14:49 pm  Who said what?
 

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Apparently I should have quoted your original comment. Confused
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 16:03 pm  Who said what?
 

Hi Alan

I know we are sometimes reluctant to change, but I donīt think that the quoting thing will revert back. It does help with preventing confusion for what counter points you are making.

Also if you provide a function it will be used. ; ) This is a common trend of most forums.

Maybe we have to accept this development.
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 16:32 pm  Who said what?
 

Hi Stew,

Thanks for your positive comments.

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 16:52 pm  Who said what?
 

Alan wrote:

Hi Stew,

Thanks for your positive comments.

Alan
Some posters seem to always feel the need to quote the previous post in its entirety -- i.e. just as I have done here with Alan's last post. I would agree that this sort of quoting is generally completely unnecessary.

On the other hand, if someone says "Let's have the occasional touch of original spark! Please!", then why dismiss exactly that sort of post with grouchy talk of "regurgitation"? Even without a quote, that sort of follow-up post might be viewed by some as nothing more than a grouchy regurgitation of one's own original post.
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 18:43 pm  Who said what?
 

Alan wrote:
Are we ever going to get back to original comments/points/views/answers? Or are we going to continue with the monotonous she said/he said/you said/they said with big chunks of quotations from other posters?

Hi Alan,

Wherever there are too many egos on board of a ship, some will do everything in their power to push other big egos overboard. This is when the original message/intention becomes less important than the hesaidshesaidbullsh*t. The subtext gets lost completely, and the only thing that counts is to have the final word. In doing so, people who don't have much to say write scores of quibbling entries only to make someone shut up they don't like. A bit like in fatal married life.

Look at all those countless Molly vs Jamie debates, for example. I find it a bit sad to see Jamie posting less here than he used to, and I think this is because he has learnt to resist discussions of pointless and hairsplitting nature. Being impetuous at times, I - on the other side - abandon myself to the impulse of reacting to taunts too often and then pay back in kind.

Still, it's a shame to see informative posts (like Jamie's, opinionated as they my be at times) sloping off, and I hope we can all find a way to treat each other tactfully and respectfully. Amen.

By the way, I'd say that this forum still stands out with respect to quality of discussions when compared to other forums. Here's a cautionary tale. And that's not even the worst there is.
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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 19:08 pm  Who said what?
 

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Amy said that someone said something about original spark and I say that that someone said what I said and then she said someone had dismissed that sort of post but had not said what post another person had said and then what someone had originally said someone had said regurgitatingly. I say!

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Who said what? Sat Jul 26, 2008 19:31 pm  Who said what?
 

Hi Alan

Thank you for proving my point that quotes might just come in handy sometimes.
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