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#2 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:55 am Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi Nessie,
I agree that the first sentence is correct and the second not. Here's another example:
It is agreed that politeness is essential in these situations, as has been argued in other places.
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#3 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:19 am Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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| English is too complicated! Are these sentences like above usually used by native English speakers? Can I communicate with native English speakers without using these kinds of complicated sentences? I am about to run out of patient. |
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#4 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:27 am Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi TMH,
You probably mean that you are running out of patience. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#5 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:32 am Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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| Yes, I've made a spelling mistake. You're right. It is 'patience'. I am not a doctor. So I never have any patient. :D :D :D |
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#6 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:09 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi THM
Yes, sentences such as Nessie's are used, especially in written English. You don't need to use long, complicated sentences yourself. However, you should be able to decipher sentences such as Nessie's.
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#7 (permalink) Wed Aug 06, 2008 15:21 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Thank you all very much :) Now I have another question: what's the part of speech of "as" in those sentences? _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#8 (permalink) Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:56 am Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi Nessie
I'd say 'as' is a conjunction in your sentence. . |
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#9 (permalink) Thu Aug 07, 2008 15:50 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Thanks a lot, Amy :) By the way, can other conjunction be used in such usage? If yes, could you please give me an example?
Thank you so much once again :) Nessie. _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#10 (permalink) Thu Aug 07, 2008 16:38 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi Nessie
I'm not sure exactly what you want. Lots of words are used as conjunctions, but they cannot all be used the same way. Nothing pops into my head as a replacement conjunction for 'as' in that sentence. However, you could replace 'as' with 'which', I suppose, in order to introduce a non-defining relative clause.
Take a look at this link. Maybe it will be helpful for you: conjunctions (Scroll down to the part about subordinating conjunctions.) . |
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#11 (permalink) Sat Aug 09, 2008 17:48 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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I'm sorry Amy, I know you can't get my idea very well, as I myself can't :P It's somehow so abstract and I can't express myself very well, just a feeling of not understanding the syntax profoundly enough. I remember seeing people use "than is" (the whole sentence I can't remember), and I wonder if it's the same case here (the second part with a conjunction in place of an adjective pronoun ("as" instead of "which")) I know I'm expressing meself very poorly, but really this syntax is very difficult for us non-native speakers. Is it inversion, Amy? And back to the original sentence, you said "as" can be replaced by "which", I suppose the 2 versions have different meanings, don't they?
Thank you very much. Nessie. _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#12 (permalink) Sat Aug 09, 2008 21:14 pm Decisions will continue to be taken in a context... |
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Hi Nessie
'Than is' would be used to contrast two things that are different. 'As is' would be used to to compare two similar things.
Using 'which' in your sentence wouldn't change the overall meaning of your sentence very much -- it simply eliminates the word that specifically makes a comparison. . |
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