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#2 (permalink) Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:30 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Hi Nessie,
You can say both. Recently we had a similar discussion, and Alan said a few clever things there.
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| ...the infinitive is more specific and the 'ing' form is more general. There is a famous line from Shakespeare's play, Hamlet about the nature of life: "To be, or not to be", which clearly wouldn't work if that were 'being' instead. Another example can be seen after the verb 'hate'. One way of apologising is to introduce your interruption with this verb as in: I hate to interrupt you but I think you are wrong. This is 'interrupt' on a specific occasion. Whereas if you say: I hate interrupting people when they are talking, you are expressing a general 'hate'. |
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#3 (permalink) Sat Aug 09, 2008 17:00 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Thanks a lot Ralf. And again, Alan's clear explanation shed light on the matter :)
As for my two original sentence, Ralf, do you agree that the former is better? (which seems to indicate a matter of fact - general) :) _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#4 (permalink) Sat Aug 09, 2008 18:51 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Hi Nessie,
The second sentence (to+infinitive) sounds a bit more natural to me. I'd expect the gerund sentence to go 'Reading letters is lovely, but writing them can be a burden'. But I can't explain why, just a feeling... _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:33 am "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Then I suppose people may have different feelings when they use English :) I myself think the 1st sentence more natural. Perhaps that's because it's the original sentence I read from the book "the thorn birds" :P
By the way, is my last sentence grammatically correct? I wonder about "think the 1st sentence correct" (without "is") Thank you very much. Nessie. _________________ :(... something we never have again, I know... I guess I really really know.. :(
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#6 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 13:06 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Hi Nessie
In this case, I think it can also be argued that using the gerund seems more active -- more so than using the to-infinitive. Either sentence is possible, but I myself prefer the first one (i.e. with the gerunds). . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#7 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 15:53 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Thanks for your idea, Amy :) However I don't get you very well (about "using the gerund seems more active" - what do you mean by "active" here, Amy?, could you please give me an example and analyse it?)
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#8 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 18:26 pm "to V" and "V_ing" |
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Hi Nessie
The -ing form of a verb tends to convey a feeling of duration, and thus a gerund often has more of a sense of activity in progress rather than of a complete act. That's what I meant by "active". . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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